I have a gas 170 and a diesel 170 that both have issues. The gas smokes, needs a clutch and the hydraulic pump needs another rebuild The diesel I have put about one hour on it since purchasing it three years ago. It has been a constant source of pain. Last week I lost a 25X32 building because of the snow load and need to get a tractor heavy enough to clean up the mess. I have spotted a Case IH 585 with a 2200 loader  (3900 hrs) and a Massey 255 with a Buhler loader. I don’t know much about either of these other than the Case having short clutch life. I am asking for a little input, advice or insider knowledge on either of these tractors… Maybe I should try to resurrect the gas 170 and limp through with it. Any thoughts are welcome…

Thanks,   Barry

Thanks for the reply Doc. The oil I can live with. The hydraulic pump grenaded shortly after I bought it.  It also snapped the previously welded pinion that drives it. A local ex dealer supplied a new pump and used pinion and it worked good but was very noisey. I paid for a new pump from Allis but I am pretty sure it was a China unit and it was very noisey. After a couple of years I had some stiff steering so I pulled the pump and replaced the worn and scored parts. After a couple of years it got stiff again and then cracked the center section. A buddy who is a millwright and did all kinds of pump and hydraulic work for General Motors took it into the factory and went over it with all new Allis parts. Now the steering is acting the same again. You have to turn the wheel very slow. The 500 loader has good pressure and would lift the Titanic. I love this tractor and that is why I jumped at the 170 diesel which has been a disappointment. I had the gas booked for an overhaul and clutch but after nine months of being put on the back burner I gave up.

Barry

Thanks for the replies guys. DSeries it’s a small world. I live north of the Big Apple and pass Port Hope twice daily on my way to and from work in Whitby so we are neighbours. I can’t remember the brand but I use fluid that I bought from Trewins the old Allis dealer in Blackstock.

Dr. I must confess I haven’t checked the screen in the sump for years. When the pump blew the first time Earl at Trewins cleaned the screen out and it had a rip in it so he brazed it up. It was NLA and he couldn’t find a used one. He told me then that it was important and it was one of the first things that I did when I bought the diesel. The first thing I noticed on the diesel was how much quieter the pump was.

Thanks again..    Barry