P1 processor
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Topic: P1 processor
Posted By: bleeds orange
Subject: P1 processor
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 6:52pm
| Can someone explain the significance of the over feed auger, and why mine was removed on my 84 n6. Should I be finding stuff to have one there again? Obviously I didn't remove it. Was like that when I purchased a few years back. Thanks cory |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:07pm
| Does the cage have square holes in it from the top down to the overfeed auger trough ?? I'm not so sure that wasn't eliminated in the 84 model year. ALL N-5's are like what you've got. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:08pm
| It's all square hole cage, no trough, no auger. Nothing |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:10pm
| I have a p1 r5 cage for parts and it had the over feed auger and trough, but there's solid plates in that area. No slotted square holes. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:17pm
 84 n6
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Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:17pm
 R5 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:25pm
| After 40 years of service, there have been many hands on these combines. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 7:31pm
| My tailings elevator is short and dumps at rear of processor by accelerator rolls. Would that explain ? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 8:00pm
| Nope. That's the way they were UNLESS you paid extra for the tailings return to the cylinder which was more of a wheat thing. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 8:26pm
| Ok |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 7:08am
|
Up here in in wheat country of north Dakota, I installed a lot of tailings return kits on the early N series Gleaners. In order for the tailings to get run across the concave again, which is the whole idea of putting the "return to rotor" kit in, the overfeed auger and trough had to be removed. A few customers then experienced plugging in that area, which lead us to putting the auger in, without the trough. The auger stirred things up enough to prevent plugging, but still let the tailings fall to get threshed again. Something I always wanted to try but could never make happen, was to modify an auger and trough specifically for the tailings return kit. What my modification would have been, would have been to, for the first 8-10 inches of the auger and trough, cut out the bottom of the trough, and above that cuttout, on the auger, cut off the flighting and replace it with a couple paddles. That way, right where the tailings dropped in, the paddles on the auger would flip em down through the cuttout in the trough, and back over the concave, then with the rest of the overfeed auger and trough still being intact, it could continue to do the job that it was intended to. I myself, have an 84' N6 on my farm with the tailings return to cylinder kit, so I guess it's still not to late for me to try this modification. But as for now, the auger and trough are out, and I don't think that I even have those parts around here. Plugging in that area has never been a problem for me. As, in addition to the first posters question, and like doc said too, if you don't have the tailings kit, there is absolutely no reason for someone to have removed the overfeed auger and trough. Darrel |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 7:24am
| When the "P-3" processors came along, the engineers made the cages all like and N/R-5 with no square holes or an overfeed auger. I guess they figured out the separation in that area wasn't that great, so they eliminated the square holes. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 12:48pm
| So what should I do? I have the solid plates from an r5 that I can put in place of cage where overfeed is supposed to be |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 1:19pm
| Don't NEED to do anything. Whatever flings out thru those square holes just gets recycled thru the rotor the way it is. The important things are good/tall/sharp helical bars, a couple extra rows over the rear chain inlet, good cylinder bars and concave, etc, etc. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 1:32pm
| Thank you |