Time to remove cab.
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Topic: Time to remove cab.
Posted By: Mattman
Subject: Time to remove cab.
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 5:19pm
Have her new shoes on. Started taking cab off this morning. Hard decision when the cab is in such great shape! Any cab removal tips welcome. Will be converting to open station.
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 7:05pm
Just curious, and maybe I missed it somewhere, but why remove the cab?
------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 7:07pm
I believe he is turning it into a pulling tractor.
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 7:36pm
Were those extended mirrors a factory accessory? Note the little AC decal on there.
------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 7:52pm
Step 1. Disconnect batteries Step 2. find fire extinguisher FAST if Step #1 not done.... Step 3. Kick yourself for not following step #1 and #2.....
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 8:41pm
Yes, original mirrors. Correct, making a puller.
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 8:59pm
Cabs not allowed on pullers?
------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 9:21pm
Im trying to reduce weight to get into a lighter class. Im currently at 10,900#
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Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 9:48pm
The mirrors were not factory installed, they were added by the dealer or purchased from a dealer and then added.
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 8:04am
Drop that side fuel tank, remove the 3-point, can you go with a narrow front end? Remove the door(s), and all windows, would that get you within range?
------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 8:59am
They don't like narrow fronts at pulls in anything over 9000. Some would let you but many wont. I know a guy with a 7020 narrow. I already removed 3 point and removed smaller tank.
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 1:17pm
I plainly don’t understand why people strip farm tractors to pull… I’d rather see them pull what they can in the fields (plows, disks, and more) than only on a track. I have a wd45 diesel with a d262 repower with a turbo but it’s sure as heck not stripped.. Sorry if I hit nerves but these Allis ‘ are not getting built any more so they will run out after awhile.
------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45
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Posted By: MrSnerdly
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 3:22pm
I hate to see that. Looks like a nice old tractor that could still do a lot of work.
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Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 3:35pm
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I saw a WD for sale locally that looked good on thumbnail. Then at all around photos it revealed it had been a puller and parked.
Then you expect the engine was pushed hard, the trans and rear end were loaded hard. Plus all the missing parts. Sigh.
Maybe all the removed parts find their way to get other parts tractors back in the field.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 4:14pm
Isn’t the cab rather integral to the integrity of the frame? Is this commonly done?
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 5:06pm
Cab is separate from tractor no relation to structural integrity
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 5:06pm
I see both sides of it. I like original, undisturbed, unabused tractors, myself.. I bought a spotless 190 XT last year to take pulling, but I didn’t have the heart to tear it apart. I left the PTO and hydraulics on this tractor with the intention of getting fieldwork out of it and dual purposing as a pulling tractor. I don’t like the abuse anymore than some of you, but there is another element to the story.. I have an 81-year-old father, who is having trouble getting around but always loved the entertainment of tractor pulling.. I have a 19-year-old son who has gotten himself in trouble and struggles to find common ground with me or his grandpa. I have a nine-year-old son who loves anything to do with grandpa, dad, his brother, tractors, and farming.. I had a grandfather who worked at Allis Chalmers in the 60s. I realize now that there is very few activities that can bring us four boys together better than tractor pulling. This tractor will secure at least four or five weekends next summer where I know that my father and two sons will be together with me with smiiling faces. I wanted to buy a heavier, tractor and strip the weight down instead of a lighter tractor and boosting horsepower and abusing the lighter drive train.. I saved every bolt washer and cotter pin. I took off this tractor and put it in a crate.. We also have seven other Allis’ that do fieldwork. I get what you’re saying though.
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Posted By: Gary(WI)
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 6:56pm
I may be intersted in the cab depending on cost
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 8:44pm
Mattman, it’s your tractor, so you do as you want with it… Hope ALL the men in your family enjoy your new 7040 pulling tractor. Thanks for sharing about pulling challenges/rules & your family history. Congratulations for having a grandfather that was employed by AC. What/where/when did he do/work at AC? I’ve never tractor pulled myself, but it’s dynamics are way cool. Please keep us updated as the 7040 progression.
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 8:54pm
He was a machinist in West Allis and took a Greyhound home on the weekends. My dad and his sisters stayed home and milked while my grandpa was 2 1/2 hours away working in the Allis factory.
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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 9:19pm
some one not long ago had one with the cab rusted out
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Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 9:50pm
I bought a 7040 a few years ago with a rusted cab, bought a used cab to replace it and sat on it for one year before biting the bullet and pulled the cab, I remember there wasn’t a big deal to do it and I wished I had done it sooner, one thing I did was remove the white top so the chains on the lifting brackets wouldn’t bend the edges. We used a cat backhoe to lift and remove the cab. We left the steering wheel and steering column in and lifted cab, all the cab wiring should unplug, remove heater hoses and a/c lines and unbolt the cab.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 1:41am
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Cab is separate from tractor no relation to structural integrity | Ok. I wonder what conversation I’m thinking of…..
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 2:59pm
Any hidden bolts that I should be aware of?
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 6:30pm
Way back in the mid 1960s when I fist became aquatinted with tractor pulling a fellow told me 3 basic things to do well at tractor pulling. They have served me well to having top performing tractors in every class and division the I've pulled in. #1 have the lightest tractor that you can #2 have the most power possible with that tractor #3 go as fast as possible Over the years I have seen many that just think weighting a big tractor up is the thing. I've seen times when the same group of tractors in in both a 10,000 pound class as a 14,000 pound class and with the sled set the same the 14,000 pounders didn't go as far as the same bunch did at 10,000 pounds. At the other end of the scale I've seen those the always do well with a heavy tractor get beat consistently with their lightweight tractor by a better driver. Anyone can get a big heavy tractor down the track, however skill is needed to consistently do well with a light tractor.
------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 7:29pm
No hidden bolts that I remember.
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