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First AC (Finally!)

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Printed Date: 22 Nov 2024 at 10:11pm
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Topic: First AC (Finally!)
Posted By: Clayfoot
Subject: First AC (Finally!)
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2024 at 8:33pm
After pining over larger orange iron for a handful of years, and recently found myself with the means and need to add something with a 540 PTO to my duo of modified Power King tractors. Before I could buy an Ollie 550, I came across and checked out a narrow front, late '57 D14 serial number 8309. No gear jumping, no death wobble in the front, runs out nicely, had a newer brass radiator, everything works and even had the optional 3 point arms that locks into the snap coupler. I just couldn't get my mine off it, so "Vicki" joined the farm this past Sunday. I discovered that name etched into the homemade inner concrete rear wheel weights, along with the year 1959. I tuned the carb up some and she runs out even better, starts at the first press of the button with just a little throttle. I have a few things to do, like cutting off broken the stack retainer bolts on the manifold and drilling/tapping them, rebuilding the seat suspension and replacing the tach cable and fuel level gauge/seal (cable and gauge on the way), cutting off and knocking out a broken wheel rail stop, general straightening out of the fenders, and one day a total repaint (roughest part of the deal), but I have a few questions.

1. What lubricant goes in the front steering gear and how much?

2. I have a decent amount of play in the steering gear, is there an over center adjustment to tighten the lash?

3. I swear I read somewhere that a D15/160 governor spring can be swapped on the increase total engine speed and net a little more power, but I haven't been able to find were I read it. Is there any validity to this and would that upset the 149 at all?

4. This evening, I noticed what appeared to be oil on top of the front tires, but the booster above them was dry? I had drive it around this afternoon after the fluid servicing. Are there any expanded diagrams of the narrow front bolster floating around anywhere? My operator's manual isn't due for another week

I haven't had it out and worked it yet, but I suspect I'll be living with the power director creep for while. I drained the fluid from the transmission, PD and hydraulic system and replaced them all with fresh J20C spec and I still get a fast creep with the PD in neutral. It's fast enough that it's just a bit slower than low range, but I can also stop it with the brakes.



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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 7:20am
PD creep can be from tractor sitting for a while. PD is not completely covered in fluid when standing still. Metal plates between fiber plates in PD can rust ,corrode. Moisture can build up in system and causes plates to rust above fluid level. Back when these tractors were used everyday it wasn't as much of an issue. Change PD fluid at least once a year and use the PD . Go bale a few thousand small round bales with a roto baler and the creep will go away.

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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails

1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 8:03am
That's good to know. The PD will certainly get use as I have some very tight headlands on my tiny acreage, although, not as much of a workout as baling (hopefully one day with more acreage). Going to hook up a 6' finish mower next week and finish off the stalk stubs and weeds in my 8 corn rows (only about 100' long).

I'm now really confused on the oil on top of my front tires. I went out and scraped the buildup/dirt off the bottom of the booster cover and it was entirely dry, especially so above where the fluid starts on the tires. Doesn't appear to be any leaking from the steering shaft input. I also have about 1/4 turn on the steering wheel before the front tires start to turn with them pointed forward and sitting still.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 11:32am
As this is your first AC tractor, get yourself and operators manual for the specific model (D14) It will explain the many features that are unique to Allis Chalmers tractors.  Enjoy your D14Thumbs Up

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 1:00pm
Ouch Come on Paul be a better READER and Wink more encouraging. He said the book is ordered. He is all excited about a new toy. No need to be negative. Maybe you were thinking it was funny, if so add more WinkLOLConfusedOuchSleepy.  This place is dead enough, encourage new people. 



Wink After we get them sucked in then we can pick on them.LOLLOLLOL


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

 After we get them sucked in then we can pick on them.LOLLOLLOL




Posted By: ekjdm14
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by Clayfoot Clayfoot wrote:

Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

 After we get them sucked in then we can pick on them.LOLLOLLOL



I dunno, really thought that was a fairly bright, rosy post for Paul Tongue





*no disrespect meant at all


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

As this is your first AC tractor, get yourself and operators manual for the specific model (D14) It will explain the many features that are unique to Allis Chalmers tractors.  Enjoy your D14Thumbs Up


The manual arrived early! I'm waiting for the rain to pass or die down to retrieve it from the mailbox

I should've added that I'm a mechanic and have been soaking up AC info for years in preparation for potentially owning a D series. I'm also not afraid to do some heavy modifications, although I do my level best to keep it tasteful. Some of the Power King purists are a little put off by my work I will be adding external hydraulics with integrated pressure relief valves to run some of my other hydraulic equipment I've put together, as well as my little Oliver 54 drill.


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 10:29pm
Fluids changed, new fuel level sender and seal installed, new seat shock bushings and adjustment bolt, hitch parts freed up, SMV bracket and location figured out, and I picked up a 7' IH 1300 today.

I'd share pictures, but my phone takes photos that are about 4 times too large for this forum.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 11:19pm
can you e-mail the photo to yourself, then resize ?

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.



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