Let’s Get Her Started!
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Topic: Let’s Get Her Started!
Posted By: Derricks
Subject: Let’s Get Her Started!
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 12:43pm
Allis Chalmers D17 Series IV
Fluids look perfect.
Put in new fuel.
Put in new spark plugs.
It turns over very well but doesn’t fire.
Next step carburetor?
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 1:15pm
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Check spark. Pull coil wire from cap and hold end 1/4 inch from block while cranking. Should jump a blue flame. If no spark won't matter what you do to carb.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 2:30pm
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Fuel+air, intake... compression, ignition, fire... timing.
If you have all these, and it still won't start, it's because you don't have all those...
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2024 at 5:03pm
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Are you sure you don't have spark? Sometimes it's hard to see. Try it after dark to see for sure.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2024 at 9:51pm
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....he says it doesn't "fire". That doesn't mean it don't have spark. He needs to prove it does first.
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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 2:45am
Air, Fuel, Compression and Sparks are required to run. 1. CHECK FOR SPARK AT COIL WIRE; pull wire from dist cap center, hold 3/16" - 1/4" from ground (cylinder head is good ground) and run starter. 2. Check for sparks on at least 2 plug wires; hold 1 at a time same distance from ground and run starter. 3. Remove plug in bottom of carburetor; does clean gas run out.? It should, old dirty gas won't run well. Reinstall plug.
If these 3 check out, remove air inlet hose from carburetor inlet, set throttle 1/2 or full and pull choke out, crank engine 15 seconds, does it attempt to fire.?
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 6:13am
Posted By: snowman(MI)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 4:24pm
I didn't see anyone mention the condenser as a possible culprit.
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2024 at 8:05pm
Any luck getting it to fire?
Assuming you’ve poured/sprayed gas into carb while engine rolls over?
If gas put into carb & still No fire, then could be many things? Mouse chewed wires? Aged brittleness wires? Bad electrical contacts, components~ coil? Points, distributor cap, ignition switch????
Verify that coil has electricity. If no electricity with ignition switched on, then run a hot wire from battery to coil and roll engine over by starter.
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