delco alternator with steering pump
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Topic: delco alternator with steering pump
Posted By: HudCo
Subject: delco alternator with steering pump
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 4:29pm
| is there a delco alternator case , shaft , coupler , combnation for the power steering pump for my series 1 d17d |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 5:43pm
There was a Delco alternator with a vacuum pump mounted on the back that was used on Diesel Trucks..... Dont know if the vac pump could put out pressure, but the alternator must have had a drive shaft thru it to drive the pump...
 ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 6:39pm
| There was an early Corvette system similar to what you want, but that may have been a generator not an alternator. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 9:07pm
| My Grand Pappy had a 1956 Chrysler Windsor with a generator and power steering pump. |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 4:44am
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I have seen the exact setup mentioned but not on a tractor. It was in sprayer carts used on golf courses, and cemetery maintenance. I think they were Ransomes, or Jacobsen built carts. Also thinking the same thing on an older Cushman "Truckster" from the 1970's. Thinking back none of these were hydrostatic driven machines. Sprayer carts had centrifugal clutch with reverser drive, and a manual transmission in the "Truckster". ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 3:12pm
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Get your generator rebuilt and you are good to go. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 4:36pm
| we need b&b to chime in , i would not be suprised if it was a matter of putting the right delco numbers together, if a armature was somwhate compatible i think i could weld up a case and machine itto bolt the pump on. i have not checked to see how many amps the geny is, i want to run the head lights on the grill and the series4 lights on the fenders a rear work light and two lights on the baler one in the back and one looking at the pick up . all led after all these years good lights is a treat big change from the 6v on the old wds the coleman lantern was better |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 9:26pm
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Many old trucks had P/S pumps on the rear of a generator. Never saw a p/s pump on an alternator in person. ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2024 at 8:12am
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Hi Mike! Sorry, coming into this kinda late. I've been busy and only been popping in here a couple times in the past few days. Anyway, there is an Alternator on the market that is designed for power steering. Its made by Mitsubishi for Forklifts. I have one on the shelf for my Forklift customers, but they are super expensive! Yer' talkin' about $715. for one of those puppies. I can build a Delco 1100345/1100440 12V Generator with long shaft for pump a bit cheaper at $450. if you have a unit to rebuild. Same Gennie that came on a WD45D, D17/19 Diesel w/p/s. I can send a pic of that Misti Alternator if your still interested. Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2024 at 11:02pm
| thanks steve i should have 2 good genys with pumps on them do you think that it can keep up with all the work lights and headlights i want to run |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 8:06am
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Just let me know what accessories your going to use, and I'll figure out the amperage needed to do the deed. I'll have my rewinder wittle an Arm up to handle output. Shouldn't be a problem. I can design our own output. I'll then mate a VR to it that will handle the current usage through the system, handle the accessories and keep the Battery happy as well.... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 9:32am
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HUD... you said all the lights are LED.... Mosts head lights are 2-3 amps on the LED version.. As STEVE said, you need to know the SPEC on each ... but if you ASSUMED 3 amps each and 8 lights... thats 24 amps. ( you might be closer to 16- 20 amps)...Good generator would do that , but thats a good load on a 30 amp generator.... be nice if it was wound a little bigger. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 9:39am
| i am going to spend a lot of money on my tractor so i will gather more info and we can find out what the full load will be may be we will be ok with all this led stuff . i not i will have you build one that will kick it in the butt |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 9:50am
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another option ( if there is room) is to mount the steering pump directly below or above the alternator and run a belt from the alternator to the pump...... the MAIN belt drives the water pump and alternator..... but you have to have room on the side of the tractor.. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 11:08am
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I've built Generators for our hotrod customer's up to 65 amps which is pretty stout for a Gennie. Some of our customer's do not like the look of an Alternator on their Flathead's or inlines, so I build them a Gennie that will handle their creature comforts, yet keep the "old time" look. I've built a couple one wire Generators in the past as well where I could squeak up to 100 amps out of them on the 881 machine where a VR isn't neccessary because of the built-in regulator I use. Those particular units are all custom built, and for a Tractor, they are quite a bit of dough to build. The problem in this case would be the long shaft Armature to drive a pump. The Alternator components I need to use to build it like a one wire Alternator inside will not work with the long shaft Arm design. It's probably a good thing anyway, because with the drag of the pump on the rear of the unit would probably in my opinion overheat the unit, and a failure would eventually occur. When building a higher output Gennie, I always use an open front chassis and a fan when possible for keeping the internals cooler... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |