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Topic: New 275/60 20 tires

Posted By: ACinSC
Subject: New 275/60 20 tires
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 5:44am

Had a set put on yesterday. Heard what sounded like an explosion coming from the shop. Saw a guy mounting a tire. Loud bang with a little fire. Realized it was one of my tires!! Manager said that's how we get those wide tires to seat. WTH??? Sounds kinda crazy to me but what do I know?

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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 6:47am

Did they spray starting fluid inside the tire, and light a match to it?

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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 6:47am

Definitely not OSHA approved method. It will work but you had better know what you are doing. Too much starting fluid would produce disastrous results. I have heard of it being done on skid steer tires but not truck tires.

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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 7:07am

Can't remember what the manager said they used, maybe brake cleaner? Yeah I'm sure OSHA would frown on that. Thanks

Posted By: TDF
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 7:37am

There is definitely an art to it, but I'll admit to using the starting fluid method more and more these days. I quickly tire of trying to seat wide tires that have been bound or stacked in a way that the beads come no where near the rims. ATV tires, car and truck tires. You name it. I usually start out with too little starting fluid on the first attempt and have to add a little more and try again until it seats.

TDF

Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 8:52am

Starter fluid should be 50% either or stronger.

Less than 50% does not have enough power. It will just burn.

John Deere sells 90% either. It works well.

Posted By: Darwin W. Kurtz
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 10:18am

I didn't know they still did stuff like that, one time my local shop shook the partition wall in the office area with a loud bang from the back shop!

Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 11:23am

Yeah Darwin , these bangs were very loud ! Thanks

Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 12:15pm

Always preferred a Air Bottle bead setter, safer and OSHA approved!!

Similar, have to be certain Largest Valve available for faster 'Hit'

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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 1:59pm

When I bought new tires for my 715B backhoe 18.4 x 24 I could not get to seat , took them back to shop where I got them to air up after i got them on rims and had tried .
Had to use a come along around tire to get bead close on both sides - then 3 air bottles (Chaeta's) along with air hose on valve to get to seat .
one guy in shop suggested using either , owner said I see anyone ever doing that here, their fires !

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Posted By: Acguywill
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 8:17pm

I have used the cutting torch before. Light the torch to a good burn, snuff it out, hold in the tire for a bit, then pull it out and relight it. Aim the flame into the tire and boom. Gets your heart going everytime. Usually seats the bead too.

Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 8:45pm

one guy in shop suggested using either , owner said I see anyone ever doing that here, their fired !

that would be MY VOTE !!

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Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 24 May 2024 at 10:32pm

We had to use that method many times until we got our bead blasters. A customer of ours decided to buy a set of drive tires for his combine. He got 1 off and put the new tire on the rim but he couldn't get the tire to seat the bead. He wound up spraying a whole can of either in the tire, tossed a match in and promptly blew the tire off the rim. He had 3rd degree burned on his face. He came in and ask for help on a Saturday morning. I sent Ben, my big guy out. He was back in less than 2 hours. A good bead blasters put the first tire on. Hydraulic bead breakers broke the other tire down and with the 10 gallon bead blaster he had the second tire mounted in no time. The farmer still has a burn scar on his face.

Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 25 May 2024 at 5:51am

Thanks for all the comments guys. I've never heard or seen this before