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Topic: Bypass Oil Filters
Posted By: Phil48ACWC
Subject: Bypass Oil Filters
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 11:19am
I'm sure we have noticed the insane price on new bypass oil filters. $18 or considerably more. Last Summer I changed the oil in my WC and carefully took apart the oil filter. I believe they use Flax as the filter media and only the bottom 1/2" or less has the flax seeds removed. The rest of the flax is loaded with seeds, and we pay insane money for that?!?!. Seeds are not a filter media. So I cleaned out the flax and washed out the filter can. Then I made a plate out of .060" thick sheet metal with the center hole and multiple smaller holes for the oil flow. Got some jumbo cotton balls from Walmart and stuffed the can with the cotton balls as full and tight as I could. I used a 1/4" rod to maintain the hole for the stand pipe. Then I put the plate with holes in to hold the cotton balls in place. Screwed it onto the tractor and the plate is held in place with the boss that the stand pipe is pressed into. Before the oil change and a flax filled filter I was holding 32 PSI. With new 10W-30 oil and my cotton filled filter the pressure was the same at 32 PSI. I did some chores with the tractor and pressure was still at 32 PSI at a slightly high idle. The oil pressure relief valve has a stiffer spring than original and the engine had a complete overhaul about 2 years ago. Oil was flowing through the filter because the bottom of the oil pan and the filter can were about the same temperature. I removed the filter to check my handy work inside and all was fine. Works great and the cotton balls cost about $2. I mowed fields last Summer and Fall and plowed snow this Winter. All is great after another inspection. No more $20+ filters for me. I think the cotton does a better job of filtering. Certainly a lot better than thousands of flax seeds. Take one apart. It will make you cringe. Kind of like when you see the quality or lack of in Chinesium parts.



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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 1:12pm
Nice! Smile
I have wondered about doing that myself but never got the nerve up to try. Thanks for the positive information.



Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 1:22pm
Since it is a BYPASS system, the filter does not have to be CLEAN and NON RESTRICTING as you want in a truck / auto filter....  Im starting to think if the engine is CLEAN and you keep CLEAN oil in it ( change as needed) ... the filter should last "forever" or close to it ??  I plan on running multiple years with the same filter.. and changing oil every couple years on a tractor that gets less than 50 hours per year.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 3:10pm

Just a note on the filter prices, our local NAPA and O'reillys are getting $33-35 for the 57011/7011, Advanced Auto Parts has the C159 for sale online for $11.39, buying 4 gets you free freight, so I got 4 last Monday, with tax, worked out to $12.19 each. Got them in one day on UPS straight from Fram's whse in TN


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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by JoeM(GA) JoeM(GA) wrote:


Just a note on the filter prices, our local NAPA and O'reillys are getting $33-35 for the 57011/7011, Advanced Auto Parts has the C159 for sale online for $11.39, buying 4 gets you free freight, so I got 4 last Monday, with tax, worked out to $12.19 each. Got them in one day on UPS straight from Fram's whse in TN

Have you checked what's inside of the advance filter?Wink


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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 4:24pm
Almost be worth it to build a Canister Filter Assembly and use TP Rolls as older US Cars once did.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 4:48pm
Well, you're thinkin' right Steve, cause I've had the same C159 filter on my B for about 4 years now. My B gets about the same amount of hours on it as yours. I changed the oil last year in the B and it came out like I just changed it. I even thought about dumpin' it back in again it was still had a little Amber to the color! LOL! But, not being a cheap skate, I changed the oil anyway. People mix these bypass filter systems up with a full flow system. These bypass filters do not need to be changed all the time. Its a BYPASS system.... Just don't leave the stand up pipe out. Wink

I think that's pretty cool what Phil did, but I think that was a lot of work for nothin'. Phil, I give ya credit buddy, "new and improved".  LOL! That's a 20 year filter man! Thumbs Up
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Originally posted by JoeM(GA) JoeM(GA) wrote:


Just a note on the filter prices, our local NAPA and O'reillys are getting $33-35 for the 57011/7011, Advanced Auto Parts has the C159 for sale online for $11.39, buying 4 gets you free freight, so I got 4 last Monday, with tax, worked out to $12.19 each. Got them in one day on UPS straight from Fram's whse in TN

Have you checked what's inside of the advance filter?Wink


looks to be the same as what's in my NAPA/Wix
first pic is the Fram C159 second is the Wix
I've ran both brands with no problems for over 25 years
on these bypass Allis tractors. Not a fan of the regular Fram filters, but I haven't had issue with these




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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 6:52pm
Advance Auto dont make filters... Probably buy them from WIX.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Jim2
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2024 at 8:28pm
Here in Wisconsin Mills Fleet Farm sells the Fram C159 for $9.99, still.  They have online order, so could have it shipped, but not sure what that might cost.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 8:53am
Originally posted by Jim2 Jim2 wrote:

Here in Wisconsin Mills Fleet Farm sells the Fram C159 for $9.99, still.  They have online order, so could have it shipped, but not sure what that might cost.
This is the direction I was going to point people! Actually found some on the shelf awhile back, 6 came home with me that day!


Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 10:34am
Deserves to be posted in the Knowledge section with illustrations on the retrofit!  Keep up the Great Work! ~ Orangeman


Posted By: Jim2
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2024 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

Originally posted by Jim2 Jim2 wrote:

Here in Wisconsin Mills Fleet Farm sells the Fram C159 for $9.99, still.  They have online order, so could have it shipped, but not sure what that might cost.
This is the direction I was going to point people! Actually found some on the shelf awhile back, 6 came home with me that day!

I got 3, but left one on the shelf for the next guy.

Jim



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