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Topic: Is it a scam?
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Subject: Is it a scam?
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:10pm
Very nice in pictures 4x4 98 Chevy pickup. Wants $1000. Claims was recent passed husbands and causes too much pain. Want's it gone. She is about to deploy and don't want to "store". Says has deal with Ebay to sell. Request phone # and address and will be delivered to me. Send money to Ebay first who will hold it as I have 5 days to check it out or refuse it after it is delivered. If I pass I get money back and they pick up the truck. 

This is from FB Marketplace add.  Smells fishy to me. How would you verify the Ebay side and would a cashiers check cover me?
Let me have it!!!



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Posted By: dp7000
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:17pm
Have her post on eBay offered to you with “buy it now” price.
eBay has some protection if it’s entirely through them.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:23pm
How far away from you, is the truck?

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:28pm
Its OK, if your actually dealing THRU E_BAY

  • New or infrequent sellers will experience transaction holds while learning best selling practices. This helps sellers become established and build a strong selling history on eBay. New sellers typically experience holds for up to 30 days, although sometimes it may be longer
  • Previously restricted or suspended sellers will experience transaction holds for the 30 days after the  https://www.ebay.com/help/account/account-holds-restrictions-suspensions/account-holds-restrictions-suspensions?id=4190" rel="nofollow - restriction or suspension  is lifted, while we confirm that the items have been successfully delivered
  • High priced items or unusual selling patterns may lead to transaction holds for up to 30 days to help us ensure that buyers don't have any issues with the order
  • The authentication process may lead to transaction holds for up to 30 days until the authenticity of items sold with  https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/selling-tools/ebay-authenticity-guarantee?id=4644#section2" rel="nofollow - eBay’s Authenticity Guarantee  can be confirmed


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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:30pm
Don't say where it is but claims in Illinois, so am I. She claims to be at scott air force base. Guess I could ask where so I could go look at it without paying.i think that'll piss her.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:37pm
She got a little cranky whe wife questioned about whole thing and said this is how it works. Give name address and phone #. Then she contacts delivery service who will bring it here after I send payment to Ebay. I'm wondering how I know the Ebay side is real.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:39pm
Don't see harm in releasing that much of my info but I'm kinda dumb.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:40pm
....and we can't talk on the phone because she's on the base. Email only.


Posted By: Darwin W. Kurtz
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:46pm
doesn't sound right to me


Posted By: dp7000
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 9:48pm
If eBay is handling money as she says, tell her to post truck with buy it now option only for you. Otherwise no protection from eBay and it’s definitely a scam.
Smells like a scam anyway. I’ve bought $100k plus of cars, trucks, Harleys and boats off of eBay with no problems. Go to official eBay site and sign up. Give her your eBay username and not address and phone.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 10:26pm

  Back 6-8 years ago, there used to be several ads such as this and there was always a relative   that was selling the "Ultra NICE SUPER LOW MILAGE VEHICLE for a ridiculous price for the seller. I think Ebay stopped them and those ads just went away. Maybe they have figured another way to succeed with your money,,,,?
 Like dp7000 is saying,,If the money handling is being 100% done by EBAY,,,it might be OK,,,,?
 Ir sure is Strange THAT THE SELLER Cannot communicate from their base,,????


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 10:38pm
Hah Joe! Her sister listed it....


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 10:55pm

 Well, SteveM C/IL,,it just sounds too pat,,,,,,,,? My son spent his whole 2 year career with the Air Force in several different AF Bases including two stints in S Korea and I dont think he was ever restricted from communicating to the outside world,,,,? Neither did two  Brothers and two cousins,,,just very odd that they used that reason,,Ya know??


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 11:19pm
Few years back same type deal, picture of truck locally , she had moved to another state .  One address was local , but for a car jockey business .
 So deal was send money through E-Bay as down payment , then vehicle would be delivered for approval . FULL refund if unsatisfactory - if accepted pay the delivery outfit .
  Got a couple e-mails going , before the so called seller decided the SCAM was not working as my DEPOSIT had not been received yet by her .   
  Offer to come look at the truck and pay at point of sale - well seems truck was already at shippers and was not allowed to see it there , but would send more pictures . 
  Oh the car jockey lot - RAN A DISCLAIMER - they knew nothing about the person , the truck , or how their name got used in the SCAM . 

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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2024 at 11:30pm
Thanks guys for helping out. I'm gonna leave this one alone.


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 3:36am
One thing alot use is that military stuff- about to be deployed- dont know why ??


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 4:55am
the classic con is always the low price...  "that smell" is all over this one!Wink

And did I hear a request?Wink

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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 5:08am

Marketplace Ad says Urbana, IL

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Link to Marketplace Ad:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1533632680723160/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A77ecd3a0-af52-425a-b43a-ec5c210a7b9b" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1533632680723160/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A77ecd3a0-af52-425a-b43a-ec5c210a7b9b


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 8:47am
If it walks like a duck...

Too many variables here that all favor the seller.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 10:23am
100% SCAM
here's how to see...
contact her to get address as you have a friend in the area...she'll hang up
contact her for the delivery company....she'll hang up

part of the SCAM is to get VERIFIED information about YOU. when 'they' get enough info ,'they' sell/use that info to make their money....new credit cards, car loans, ???


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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 11:13am
Phone calls are monitored less than emails by the military, but she would have nothing to worry about on either, if the deal is legit. If she is on/around a military base that truck would sell within a day or so. Something smells on that deal. 

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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 2:43pm
If it's through eBay, search eBay for 99 Chevy 4x4 and see if the ad comes up. If not, it's not through eBay

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 3:18pm
other thin you can do, get Google to locate the pictures !!! You upload on of them and Google scans the net to find 'similar' pictures. If SCAMMER used someone else's picture, the originals will be found.


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Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 5:54pm
Nearly ANY 4x4 even of that vintage around STL that Runs drives and licensable is OVER $5000, last about three days in general ads.  This is a HUGE SCAM.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 6:45pm
She says she "has a deal with Ebay to sell". Did you ever try to get any kind of response from Ebay for anything? 

One thing Ebay will not let happen is exchanging email addresses or any kind of contact info. If it's listed with Ebay, they are going to make their fees, no matter what.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2024 at 9:37pm
IT IS A SCAM!
I went through something similar a few years ago.  Asked for address and she saw that I am in La Crosse, tole me Rochester, MN.  I said that is great as I'd be over that way the next day.  She came back with that it'd be going to the Air Force base in Nebraska.  i said that would be even better as I have a nephew who is a retired policeman and he lives there.  He'd be there to look at it the next day.
Well, guess what,,,,,,,I never heard from her again.
Oh yeah, it was for a camper....and it was on FB.


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