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Looking at a D14

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Topic: Looking at a D14
Posted By: captaindana
Subject: Looking at a D14
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 12:19pm
And she says the hi Lo hand clutch works good but there’s no neutral. Does this mean disaster? Thanks. Dana

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana



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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 1:45pm
Just wonder if she says that because it has the normal crepe while in neutral common in the D series?

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 4:47pm
Take the access door off and see if the brass shims are out of the PD clutch.  Also if the PD fluid is too thick, or moisture laden (cloudy or milky)...Wink

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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 5:01pm
Yup I’ll have to go and see

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 5:59pm
I would not be worried about it.  They are easy to work on.  Could be creeping and they are assuming neutral is out.


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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 6:14pm
This may or may not be relavant. My d14 creeps harder when its cold. Warmed up very little

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1984 80780
1957 D14
DES 300 with 25000 engine
616 tractor


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 6:55pm
All 4 of my D-14s never had a true 'neutral'..... creep a little, unless plow was acting as an anchor..... yes, thick oil, it's creep more....
What could be an issue is the ' 3rd gear pop out when backing off speed' problem....
or
PTO lever dribbles some oil
or
rockshaft ram seal / line leak

but they are GREAT tractors !!!

query... is it a 6 volt or 12 volt version ?


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 7:06pm
As the transmission oil warms up the issue becomes less evident.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 7:25pm
Yes I have many hi lows my whole life just not a D14. Pretty sure it’s prolly the creeps😆. Thanks y’all!

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 7:28pm
My D15, D17 and 190XT all have varying amounts of creep in neutral, I wouldn’t worry.

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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 8:44pm
Dana, your herd will look even better with a D14 added to it.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 5:14am
I’m debating here on my second cup of coffee…why buy another? Another alternator conversion, another battery, another fluids change, another yearly oil and filter and etc etc etc. Twenty three oranges are enough…..but dang I always wanted a pristeen 14….

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 6:06am
All the more reason to go and get it !!!


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 7:24am
Never have too much orange!

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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 3:56pm
You can always sell it off if you decide it was a mistake.


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by captaindana captaindana wrote:

I’m debating here on my second cup of coffee…why buy another? Another alternator conversion, another battery, another fluids change, another yearly oil and filter and etc etc etc. Twenty three oranges are enough…..but dang I always wanted a pristeen 14….


Pristine D14's are very hard to come by.  If you find one, GET IT!  Most have had craapy repaints done.  I have 3 original D14s.  They are always the "go to" tractor for light chores around the farm.  If you find one with factory power steering, even better.  No need to convert to an alternator - I am still running generators on all of mine.  Get them professionally rebuilt and they are good to go.

Dad on the 1958 that his father bought in 1960:

1959 That I bought for $200.  Sat in a barnyard for 15 years.  Engine was rusted solid.

1960 I bought 3 years ago from someone's private collection. 



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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 7:34pm
Oh man you guys are killing’ me! Yes it has power steer and original paint. I changed oil and filters and antifreeze and air filters in the 200 then 175 then 7020 then D17 III then WD45 WF just to keep my mind off that 14 today. Tomorrow I have 10 more to do trying to forget the 14!

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 8:35pm
Factory power steering?
That's a "must buy!"
Darrel


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 9:00pm
I’m partial to those 1959 black bar grill D14’s and D17’s. Best looking grill they ever made IMO

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 9:17pm
Would rather have a D14 than a D15.....

it might be because it had Power steering added and it works FANTASTIC !!!!!

I have spent MANY an hour on our D14 doing EVERYTHING but heavy tillage.

GREAT small tractor !!!

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The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate


Posted By: LaJaMe
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 9:39pm
When my Dad was a dealer Late 50's to Early 60's, Our demonstrator tractor was a NF D14. I spent alot of time in that seat and loved every minute.  We didn't have a truck so the 14 was used to pickup and deliver equipment.  Great little tractor !!!!


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2023 at 9:29am
Post some pictures of it after you get it home, Captain !!
Darrel



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