How Rare Is A 170 With ---
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Topic: How Rare Is A 170 With ---
Posted By: Unit3
Subject: How Rare Is A 170 With ---
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 10:08pm
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with a shuttle trans? It has a gas engine, 3pt, and 540/1000 PTO. Are they a 4 speed without a reverse gear? ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 10:55pm
| Yes. Four forward and four reverse. I have a customer that has one and it's the only one. They are pretty rare in my opinion. |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 11:19pm
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They must back up like a house afire in high gear. I saw one in a D17 once. What series, I don't remember. Were they put in any other tractors? ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 1:45am
| D-14's and D-15's and I-600's and 615's. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 7:47am
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There is a 175 diesel with an AC loader and shuttle in my neighborhood. Has less than 1000 hrs. Very rare in my opinion. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:15am
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While plowing at Albert City last weekend I talked to a gentleman on a 170 gas. Shuttle shift trans. Only reason I found out that little detail, "Power Director" handle, or in this case, shuttle shift handle was on the wrong side. Nice guy, nice tractor and a cute little semi-mount Red plow. |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:23am
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I wish I had one It would be a trick with a rotary cutter in tight places ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:29am
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It would work good for a brush-cutter. I have an 826 Hydro that I have those same thought about. Problem, it doesn't move and I never seem to have time to get that resolved! |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:33am
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I have had a weak moment or two and thought about an International hydro but it soon passed ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:35am
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Really I think a hydro would be real handy. If I had one I would surely use it ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:41am
Well, I like Red tractors as well as Orange ones so it was pretty easy for me to drag it home. It wasn't supposed to sit this long! Life gets in the way it seems. If I can get it moving, it will be handy for a million things! I could see planting corn with it but the 185 handles that job quite nicely.
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8070nc wrote:Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:47am
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If I sounded critical forgive me I didnt mean to. Ive got tractors and such that need work that I havent gotten to yet. Yes if I found an IH hydro I thought could afford Id buy it. Those things are pricey ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 9:53am
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I've seen a couple of the shuttle shift 170's, but believe that they are very rare indeed. But what really caught my attention about the one you describe is the 540/1000 PTO. I don't think that I have ever seen a 170 with both PTO's. Thought that a 185 was about as far down as they went with dual PTO's. Darrel |
Posted By: snowman(MI)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 11:18am
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On the subject of rare, happened to see this feature on one of the
tractors at Albert City. I could only chuckle of mixing the past with
the new for the times. See if you can find what I'm talking about.  ------------- 1950 WD, 1966 D-10 III, 1961 D-10 II, 1966 D-15 II Gas, A-C Minibike, 917 Hydro Mower, 917 Hydro Blower w/cab, West Michigan "Allis Express" |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 11:43am
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I have a 170 w/Shuttle with the dual PTO as Factory Installed at the factory. >In Operator's Manual YES, Reverse is FASTER! 1'st is fast enough, F or R 4th w/16.9x28. F=13.30. R=15.32 |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 11:43am
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I know where theres one that takes it a step further. Xt gasoline snap coupler Narrow front ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 11:46am
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Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 1:03pm
That XT has a belt pulley! ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 3:51pm
| Forgot to mention, my customers One-Seventy Shuttle Clutch tractor is a narrow front end too. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 5:40pm
D10's and 12's had an option similar to the shuttle. Instead of the hi-low shift, it was f-r, but you have to stop motion, step on the clutch, and shift forward for F or rearward for R. It might be for sale, came off a state roads mowing tractor. Located in Gambrills, MD, PM me if you all have any interest...  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 7:29pm
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I have a NF OneNinety with a belt pulley from new. OneEighty and OneNinety belt pulleys have a 4" longer casting than the D series belt pulley. D Series will bolt on for looks. To add a belt pulley and have it functional, the tractor must have the internal gear and shifter. Snowman did you also notice the snap coupler and propane? Must have been Charlies tractor. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 8:52pm
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THE 918 iNDUSTRIAL was based on the 190- had a torque converter and a hyd shuttle using the PD knob/lever. Almost had one bought decades ago and the deal fell through for some reason. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2023 at 8:49pm
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here's one on Craigslist. link: https://limaohio.craigslist.org/grd/d/middle-point-allis-chalmers-tractor/7640931754.html" rel="nofollow - - Allis-Chalmers tractor  ------------- D19 diesel,D17 diesel SER.3 D14 NF,D14 WF, D15 SER.II wf D15 SER.2 DIESEL,D15 ser.II nf D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2023 at 11:58pm
About like if you get a Deere tractor like a 4010/20 with slopped out shift linkage or the dash notched out to access the hidden 3rd reverse. That’ll get you out of the barn in a hurry! |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 12:36am
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Interesting I’d like to see pictures of duel pto in 170. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 12:48am
| Looks just like a dual PTO in a 185. The speeds aren't a normal standard speed on a shuttle clutch tractor. |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 5:51pm
   
Hope this helps! From Operator Manual 170 above 07500 I think the PTO speed is more constant with dual speed internal gearing.  |
Posted By: snowman(MI)
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 7:49pm
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Calvin, I did miss the snap coupler and propane. Some of you guys really know who have the rare versions of tractors ------------- 1950 WD, 1966 D-10 III, 1961 D-10 II, 1966 D-15 II Gas, A-C Minibike, 917 Hydro Mower, 917 Hydro Blower w/cab, West Michigan "Allis Express" |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 8:25pm
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Have a neighbor who had 2 170 gas shuttle with loaders, would guess maybe not anymore because they use all there tractors hard.
------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 9:06pm
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I might of missed something but wouldnt a two speed rockshaft pto housing off a 200 work on a d17 or 185 ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2023 at 9:11pm
| Series 4 should take the same gasket as a 185 and a 200" also. Problem is the PTO speed coming from up ahead has to be 1,000 RPM to get 540/1000 on the rear. So, you'd have 270/540 as it is geared now. |