Original Cost of AC Pull Type Combines
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Topic: Original Cost of AC Pull Type Combines
Posted By: jboyer1028
Subject: Original Cost of AC Pull Type Combines
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 6:05am
| What was the original cost of pull type AC combines in the 1930s? |
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 5:18pm
In 1935 a high speed combine sold for $595 FOB. In 1947, a 60 would set you back $885. Source: C.H. Wendel's book... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: Walter(MO)
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 11:10pm
| My Dad and Uncle bought a Combine in 1946 after the war. I have the orginal sales ticket for a 60 AC combine which has a price of approx. $675 plus a pto shaft and draw bar for a WC which made a total price a little over $700. I will dig out the invoice from my AC memorabilia so I can post cost from actual invoice. They also had the dealer overhaul the motor on the WC. If I remember correctly the invoice price was $75 for parts and labor. My dad told me they had to sign a contract with AC that they had to combine 100 acres the first year or a farmer with more acres could buy the machine because machinery was not available after the war. My dad and Uncle had 50 acres of wheat, some lespedeza and also custom combining to get the 100 acres to meet the contract for Allis Chalmers. This was all done with the WC, steel wheels and hand brakes. My brother who was older told me the combine came with out tires so they had to put on used car tires. He said they had many flats per day, losing time on the combining the wheat crop. Finally the ration board allowed them to purchase one tire so they put the tire on the bin side which eliminated most of the problems. Soon after they were allowed to purchase the first tire the ration board allowed another tire and combining really went well the rest of the year. |
Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 6:49am
| My father told me it was hard to get new tractors after the war was over, had to get on a list. If I remember correctly he said something about if you served in the military during the war that gave you a better chance of getting a new tractor. Someone please comment on this, because I going on memory ( way before I was born in 1959 ). But remember him telling me what you could buy certain new models of tractors for in the late forties also. |
Posted By: jboyer1028
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 8:10pm
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Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it. |
Posted By: 1951WDNWWI
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 7:03pm
| The waiting list after WWII for farm equipment was interesting. Once on the list if you refused the next tractor that came in you went to the bottom of the list. That is how my grandpa ended up with an Oliver OC3 crawler on a dairy farm. My uncle told me it was a good thing it had lights because they were in the field late at night. |
Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2023 at 7:53am
| How did the “waiting list for new equipment “ work ? I remember my father talking about having to be on a list to get a new tractor. Also I remember my father saying something about a freeze on prices. He said his brother brought a used Farmall M tractor and got it because new tractors was hard to get, but for what his brother gave for the M he should wait and try to get a new tractor. I just curious how the waiting list worked and who managed the list. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2023 at 4:11pm
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There was a government agency for wage and price control. Have a good friend who's dad worked in that department in WW2. I don't know what branch of government it would of been under. Maybe the local rationing board was part of the of the wage and price control. Gas, sugar, coffee and lots of other goods, you needed coupon from the ration board before a store would sell you the product. As I understand ever person was allotted so much of each item. If you wanted more had to put in a request for more, then board decided if you got more. Or work out a trade with someone that did not use all their allotment. I know for farm equipment the dealer would let you know when a tractor or what ever was available if you had been on the list and got to the top. At which time you committed to buying or could pass if had changed you mind for what ever reason. No idea if started the process at the dealer or you had to go to the rationing board. Hopefully other can add more. On a side note, my friend says the reason we have company sponsored health insurance to this day is it was a way to give a raise to employes under the wage and price control boards. Once people have a perk very hard to take it away.
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Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 8:15am
| Thanks for that information and details. I wonder if there was one main list and if the town you live near had several tractor dealers you could take whatever was available first, instead of waiting for one brand of tractor to be available? |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 8:55am
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My Wife's Grandfather farmed with horses in the Boise Valley of Idaho during WW2; he was on a waiting list for a tractor throughout the war; somewhere during that time he bought a used AC Model C and had the AC dealer overhaul it, he didn't get to the top of the waiting list until a Model CA came available long after the war was over, he traded the Model C in for the CA. My Father-in-law was a teenager at the time so he got to drive it, he bragged about that little CA for the rest of his life. |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 12:04pm
Yep, Kaiser was one of if not the first to do it in order to retain workers in their shipyards and steel mills. And now what's main business of Kaiser? Healthcare. ------------- Learning AC...slowly |
Ray54 wrote:Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2023 at 1:14pm
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Would interesting to know more about how the system worked. Had a old guy that mechaniced here in his older days, had been a ranch foreman in the San Joaquin Vally during the war. The owners what bring more land under cultivation and got on the list for a new Cat D8. I suspect irrigated land might have gotten a higher priority over dryland farming. But anyway they were notified to be expecting a D8 as it had been loaded on the train headed west. But no D8 showed up. Got notification a contractor in Denver had seen it on the flat car. As he was building government projects in the area, he asked and it was unloaded in Denver for him. Had a neighbor tell me he ordered a tractor during the rationing days, and by 47 he had more or less forgotten about it until he got a call the dealer had a tractor if he wanted it still. Had a uncle that the military sent home from the induction station. So he went back to trucking. At the end of the war hauling machinery he was told the JD dealer was getting more combines than ordered. So telling his father to go see about it. I believe it was for the 47 harvest season that starts in June here grandpa and dad had a new combine. Which almost brings us back around to the title of this thread. But I have no idea what it cost. This was as JD 36b sidehill model, 2 or even 3 times the size of AC AL crop. Very equal to what a Gleaner C could do.
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