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D-15 Belt Pull Hydraulic Pump

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Topic: D-15 Belt Pull Hydraulic Pump
Posted By: hwstem
Subject: D-15 Belt Pull Hydraulic Pump
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 11:00am
My neighbor wants to add an optimal hydraulic pump for the belt pulley to his D-15 diesel. Are they available if so where at? And what needs to be done to do so?
Thank you in advance!
-Wade

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 1:57pm
Pretty sure belt pulley will stop when clutch is pushed in....
If so,depending on application, this could be a bad thing ??
Only way I know to get a true 'live' hydraulic pump, would be off the front of the the crankshaft.


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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 2:10pm
Here's what I did

https://youtu.be/npgtGgWNgvc" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/npgtGgWNgvc




Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 3:29pm
"Optimal" hydraulic pump?? how about "auxiliary" hydraulic pump ??  I know they made one for the D-17 and could have for the D-15 as well. A poor set-up at best. Only worked when your foot was off the clutch pedal. No parts available any more unless by chance you found a salvaged tractor with the optional hydraulic system. The home-made "live" system is by far superior or a front pump from an all-hydraulic loader is too.


Posted By: rtwfarm
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 5:31pm
Got a d15 d highcrop with side mounted pump. 402-469-1738


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 5:40pm
So, it's more than just the pump, right ?? It has an oil tank on the right platform and some sort of a hydraulic valve stack ?? maybe on the left side beside the seat??


Posted By: rtwfarm
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 5:44pm
Call for pictures 402-469-1738


Posted By: rtwfarm
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 8:42pm
Pics sent


Posted By: MadCow
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by coggonobrien coggonobrien wrote:

Here's what I did

https://youtu.be/npgtGgWNgvc" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/npgtGgWNgvc





Kit? Parts list?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 3:25pm
This hydraulic system is a "one-of", utilizing a hydraulic pump from a Northern Hydraulics Catalog, making a pump mounting bracket that attaches to the thermostat housing, adding a second pulley to the crankshaft pulley and finally using a hydraulic console/valve stack from a D-17 IV or 170-175-180-185 tractor. All the hoses and connections were selected to get the installation completed on the D-15 II chassis in March of 2017. The original hydraulic sump is tapped into on the front left side corner for hydraulic oil supply and there is a return filter from a 180-190-200 under the left rear axle area to filter all return oil. The only time any hydraulic oil ever leaves the sump is when a one-way cylinder is extended, so a couple of quarts at the most. When using a 2-way cylinder extending, even less oil leaves the sump. It has performed flawlessly for 6+ years and is pretty neatly installed.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 4:43pm
We have a D14 industrial with a pippin loader on it. It had a side pump. I don’t remember being bothered by having to make sure foot clutch was out. The center plate cracked and couldn’t find replacement so we put front pump on it


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 5:08pm
As far as I know, any D-14/D-15 side pump was dead when the foot clutch pedal was depressed. Only the D-17 IV and One-Seventy's were "live" at that drive location.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 5:11pm
Guess what I meant was don’t remember it being a nuisance. Having shuttle clutch helps though 


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 5:14pm
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2023 at 11:09am
Here is the build thread for the d15 live hydraulic conversion.  I did all the fab work, Dr did the engineering.  Still works beautifully

https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/topic133380.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/topic133380.html



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