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Topic: 816b
Posted By: Chase7317
Subject: 816b
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 6:40pm
| I'm thinking about selling this beast Whats it worth? Having trouble up loading pics |
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 8:11pm
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I'll start the bidding; $50.00, (american). ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 8:19pm
| Please post your location. If it isn't too far, I'm interested. |
Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 6:00pm
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The price for used backhoes is subject to the market of any local area. I'm in Canada, the last 816 I sold was 9 years ago, it was in fair to good condition, I got $8000 for it then. Presently, that's likely holding if it were to be sold right now. ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 2:09pm
| Sorry guys I've been a little busy I'm in northeast Ohio and I'm asking 5500obo currently looking for a new starter for the beast emailing is quicker chase7317@gmail.com |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 03 May 2023 at 2:19pm
Sorry guys I've been a little busy I'm in northeast Ohio and I'm asking 5500obo currently looking for a new starter for the beast emailing is quicker chase7317@gmail.com  
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Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 10:45pm
| North East ohio |
Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 10:35pm
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In the event that you don't already know, your 816 (#1065) was made in 1970 according to the serial# book. !970 was their most productive year as over 1400 were made. The years to follow only between 100 to 200 came out of the plant. ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 10:42pm
| Thats good to know. You wouldn't happen to have a part number for the starter would you |
Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 24 May 2023 at 12:07am
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No, I don't have the number for the starter. Are you missing the starter altogether? You may come across listings for other applications where the 248 cubic inch Perkins was used. They may have different bell housings but the the 248 was used in Massey Ferguson tractors at the same time. If you go to a forum covering MF you may get some leads. ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 31 May 2023 at 8:27pm
| I have the starter but it needs rebuilt or just replaced the numbers on the starter I've not been able to match up with anything |
Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2023 at 12:52am
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If you find a reputable shop that rebuilds starters, they'll have it fixed for you in short order. Most of the time not that much is wrong with a starter, it could even be that just the solenoid needs replacing. ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2023 at 7:13am
| I was having trouble with the 170 . Was cranking slow. I took the starter apart and just cleaned it. Replaced the solenoid and and discovered the voltage regulator wasn't working so replaced that as well. Made a world of difference. |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2023 at 7:57am
I'll let a friend borrow mihe used it for a while and then called dan told me it wouldn't start this is the result
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2023 at 9:05am
Yeah that's more than just a clean up 
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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2023 at 11:03pm
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It looks like all you need is a new starter drive, a rebuild shop can obtain and install exactly what you need. ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2023 at 2:03am
| Yeah I just need to find a place that does it near me |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2023 at 7:54am
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Snap a post of the teeth on the flywheel ring gear and post it. If the teeth are worn badly on the ring gear, a new starter drive will not last long and the tractor will need taken apart to repair. I'd bar the engine over while looking at the ring gear all 360 degree of engine rotation. I'll bet you have a tooth or two missing on the ring gear to wipe a starter drive like that. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2023 at 7:55pm
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On my HD4 I replaced the starter drive with a high buck one with machined case and snap ring holding the sprag unit - went bad a year later , was on a job and checked with a close by auto parts store - they had a unit but was the cheap one with stamped steel case - that one worked for 5 years and still was when i sold the machine . On another unit I had the starter went bad I used the stock nose cone casting and mated it to a extra starter I had off my White truck gas engine armature , field , and drive , worked better and more power than the stock one ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2023 at 11:02pm
| I took the inspection cover off and looked at the flywheel I didn't see anything bad but I couldn't get it 360 I ran out of daylight and was out in the field when I get time ill try to check things out better |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2023 at 4:30am
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Perkins engines will crank and start very noisily with a tooth ripped from a ring gear for a long time. When two adjacent teeth are broken out they wipe the starter drive gear out on short order. Not suggesting this is the problem with yours, but it does need evaluated. I've seen this more than once and have Perkins diesels myself; two being the 4.248 series in Hyster forklift applications, and a T4.236 from a Caterpillar backhoe tractor. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: Chase7317
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2023 at 10:37am
| I'll climb back under it and inspect it better when I have time working to much to mess with it right now |