190XT front tires
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Topic: 190XT front tires
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: 190XT front tires
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2022 at 10:43pm
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I have tried doing a search with no luck. Maybe I am doing it wrong. I presently have 7.50x16 wheel tire combo up front. I want to switch to a wider tire/rim. 10.00-16 or a 11L-15. Tire isn’t the issue, it’s the rim offset that I’m wanting to verify. I think the 200 had this rim. Just don’t want to order the wrong rim. Any help is appreciated. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 6:43am
| 200's usually had a 9.5 L x 15. This was an attempt to offset the dropped front axle because of the new crankshaft driven oil pump bulge in the oil pan. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 7:58am
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the 200 i bought recently had 10.00X16 fronts, and needed new tires, rims too, so I bought new 11LX15 tires and rims from our local tire shop. The rims were already close enough cream color for me, and they are on 8" wide wheels so they aren't really short and squatty like 11L usually are. These look really good on it, it has 34 rears. The center is offset a couple of inches, so will only fit mine one way, and tire is about an inch and a half away from spindle upright. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 10:55am
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Rims off a New Holland round baler like a 851 should work they are as heavy made as any front tractor rims,running them on the front of 2 loader tractors. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 1:20pm
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Hmm, it sounds like you have 7-16 rims so I’d think you’d be able to get like 9.5-16 or 10.00-16 on the same rim… I could be over thinking but on a ji case I have, the tire shop said 9.5-16s would go right on the 7.5-16 rim with no problem. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 3:14pm
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I presently have 7.50-16’s. Ed, the rims usually have the size stamped into the rim. Would you mind looking for me? Offset is the killer so as not to rub the knee. If you have time send me a picture. Hopefully you still have my number. I have only about an 1” clearance of the factory wheel tire combo. I would think a wider tire of the factory rim will be too much but what do I know? That’s why I’m asking ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 5:30pm
Allis55:
a 9.5 or 10.00 x 16 tire will NOT fit on a rim that had 7.50 x 16s -
the rim would be way too narrow for tires that wide. My 190XT had 7.50 x 16s when I bought it. I got a set of 10.00 x
16 tires and rims from a 200 and they fit perfectly. No rubbing on the
knee. If you order a rim for a 200, you should not have any problems.  ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
55allis wrote:Posted By: SLee(IA)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 5:56pm
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Dad bought our Series III XT new. It came with 10.00x16 tires from the factory. From Agco partsbook Rim for 10.00x16 tires; 70257789 Sorry it doesn't have the offset information. I could go out and try to measure ours but I don't think I could be real accurate with them mounted on the tractor. Steve Edit, Kind of pricey from Agco at $220 each.
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 7:10pm
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Appreciate everyone’s input. Steve that is the same part number I got from Agco. I wanted to search some wheel company sites but I need the offset. I was quoted $255 from Agco today. Just wanted to do some price searching. Myron, that’s the look I am looking for. Nice looking series 1. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 7:46pm
| 720 man, make sure you get tractor rims, not implement rims. Tractor rims have a far heavier center in them than implement rims. They are made to take the stress of a loader or stress of turning. Wagon/implement rims are made to roll straight with very little of the turning stress. A salvage lot might be your best bet. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 8:04pm
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Absolutely, was only searching for tractor rims. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 8:31pm
| call agwheelexpress.com. They will get you set up |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 10:02pm
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I replaced the worn out 9.5Lx15" on my AC200 with a set of 10:00x16" on rims that came off a IHC 856 or 1256 tractor w/factory WF. The offset is correct, less than 1/4" change in distance of tire to knee/spindle. Made it ride nicer doing field work. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2022 at 9:15am
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Allis55:
a 9.5 or 10.00 x 16 tire will NOT fit on a rim that had 7.50 x 16s -
the rim would be way too narrow for tires that wide. I'm going to dispute this a little, just a little. My 756 has 10.00x16's on what I assume are the factory rims. It would have had 6.50x16's originally. They don't look bad, but not quite right either. I have no plans of changing them... The 185 has 11L15's on, I believe IH rims. They were on a 966 is the info I got at the sale. Fit, work. and look great to me.   |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2022 at 1:55pm
[/QUOTE] Hmm I’m starting to need to look for a new set on my wd which currently has 6.50-16s, so I’d like oversized fronts because I have 16.9-28s on the back… I wonder if I could get a 7.50 or a 9.5-16 on the same rim? ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2022 at 4:18pm
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9.5's are 15's. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2022 at 6:11pm
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7.50-16 tire will fit ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2022 at 9:10pm
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Mike, They've been on it almost 10 years, no issues except tires starting to weather crack. Carries the loader a lot nicer in soft dirt than 9.5Lx15 did. The tires and rims were found in a friends in-laws machine shed, while getting ready for estate auction. My pay for a days work. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2022 at 6:28am
Put some of the rims both implement and tractor on a scale to see which weighs the most,in other words has the most metal in them and you'll find out what you say isn't always true.
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2022 at 10:29pm
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Found some rims from a 200 today, has worn out tires on them but it allowed me to see how they fit. Just need to sand blast, paint, and install new tires. 11L-15. Will save me about $250 going with used rims. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2022 at 8:58pm
| What i have done is buy blank rims and centers from Miller tire and weld them in with the offset you need, their centers are heavy duty and look just like the original wheels, this way you won't have to use an implement wheel and reverse it to make it fit, that just doesn't look original. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:16pm
 ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:16pm
 ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:17pm
 ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:21pm
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The sideways picture problem is back ugh. Anyway, I finally got my tires and wheels on today. Will have to wait until spring time to touch up the paint. Very happy, 11L-15 Carlisle. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:36pm
   I straightened them out for you ac720man… And they look really nice!!! ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 3:46pm
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Thank you 55allis, appreciate the compliment and straightening out my pictures ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 5:10pm
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That is one very nice looking XT. If I live long enough, we have a 72 bought new, that someday.....will be restorded. Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 7:26pm
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yours look like they are on 10" wheels, which makes them wider. Mine are on 8" wheels and they look almost like a 9.5L lol! Mine looks a lot like the bar grill xt pictured above. Funny how a rim difference can make a huge difference in the tire. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 8:03pm
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Good eye Ed, they are in fact 10” rims. Oddly, they are just about the same height as my 7.50-16’s. I couldn’t be happier with how they look. I was glad I got the Carlisle, made in the USA which surprised me. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 8:09pm
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Thanks Leon, took me 11 months to get her where she is today. Mainly weekends and after work. That was 6 years ago. It was worth all the hard work. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |