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Topic: Best Tasting F/FBurger ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Best Tasting F/FBurger ??
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 5:19pm
My "go-to" is the DQ "non bastarrdized"  basic single/double/triple  burgers, but BK has an awesome line-up of simple burgers also Big smile . McDonalds burgers are "tolerable-at best" IMO Confused



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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 5:38pm
There are NO really good tasting FF Anything.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

There are NO really good tasting FF Anything.
You're wrong Wink


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 5:53pm
I haven't been to DQ for awhile, we never know when the local one will be open! i don't waste my time or Rolaids with the other 2!


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 6:01pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

There are NO really good tasting FF Anything.
You're wrong Wink

No I am Not.  Do NOT waste my money on flash frozen who knows where came from ?Meat?

We generally delve into burgers at a local Ice Cream and Deli shop here, nothing better than Local Fresh Beef.  Have several shops that specialize in butchering and smoking meat so they are go to for other type sandwiches.  On the Road we do NOT use FF, find a REAL Food Shop.


Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 6:15pm
I don't eat any fast-food burger when i go out.  Very rarely do we eat fast food unless it is a necessity.  Raise my own beef, chicken, turkey and guineas.  Buy pork loins on sale and cut my own boneless chops.  Was reading an "expert" review the other day and Burger King had the highest rated beef for flavor.  Most of the beef for fast food burgers comes from old cows mostly dairy cows.  Five guys have about the best burgers but they are pricey, but I have never minded paying for quality.  


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by Wayne180d Wayne180d wrote:

I don't eat any fast-food burger when i go out.  Very rarely do we eat fast food unless it is a necessity.  Raise my own beef, chicken, turkey and guineas.  Buy pork loins on sale and cut my own boneless chops.  Was reading an "expert" review the other day and Burger King had the highest rated beef for flavor.  Most of the beef for fast food burgers comes from old cows mostly dairy cows.  Five guys have about the best burgers but they are pricey, but I have never minded paying for quality.  
Thank you for an informative reply Wayne !! Sadly, is a guinea in the poultry family LOL ??


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

I haven't been to DQ for awhile, we never know when the local one will be open! i don't waste my time or Rolaids with the other 2!
Shame, is there a Hardees /Carl Jr's ?  We have several "here" and they both suck Confused


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 7:23pm
I like Steak ‘n Shake and I like some Sonic burgers.
I can go to the Ozark Cafe and get a very good burger , tots and semesters tea for less than a ff joint and much better and very good service.


Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 8:03pm
Mc Donald's Quarter Pounder Deluxe is probably at the top with a Culver's Single Deluxe a close 2nd. 

Hardee's Original Angus Burger is up there also but my local Hardee's closes at 2:00pm due to staffing issues, I get off work at 4:30. Burger King's Whopper tastes good at first but a 1/2 hour later I am burping/belching up the "Flame Broiled" taste.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 8:08pm
[QUOTE=iowallis]Mc Donald's Quarter Pounder Deluxe is probably at the top with a Culver's Single Deluxe a close 2nd. 

Hardee's Original Angus Burger is up there also but my local Hardee's closes at 2:00pm due to staffing issues, I get off work at 4:30. Bugger King's Whopper tastes good at first but a 1/2 hour later I am burping/belching up the "Flame Broiled" taste.
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A co worker loves the BK whopper, but it exits him in a different manner within 2 hours Embarrassed


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2022 at 9:14pm
Iowa......... them Double Quarter Pounders and the DELUX are both pretty good at our local McDs !!

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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 7:18am
I don't eat any of that to speak of. 1 or 2 times a year.
Best one I ever had was in a local bowling alley.


Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 9:17am
Five Guys is pretty good. Not sure if they are worth the price though.

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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 8:11pm
The Coffee Shop in the little town near me has a real good Cheese burger. Culver's has a good hamburger. Then it's all downhill from there with the rest of the burger joints.I have found good hamburgers in Bars,American Legion Halls and people's backyards!


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 8:19pm
Do any of you guys butcher your own beef ? Is any of it frozen ? I can't justify Culvers burger $$ for "as-good" of tasting burgers from other FF places Wink


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 7:01am
We raise beef.  Burger is in a chest freezer for sometimes over a year, and it's fine.  HOWEVER, this is in bulk 1 pound or 2 pound packages.  IF we have patties made, they don't last as long, and IF you're dumb enough to put meat in a frost free freezer it isn't going to hold up very well.  


Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 7:20am
We used to have a beef butchered at a local shop when our kids were little.
Buy one from a local farmer. Would last us a year. $1000 total. That was when it was cost effective. Not so much anymore. Bought a half a beef at the start of covid. $2200 and that was a good price.
No more steaks now. Buy burger in bulk and package it myself.
Eat more chicken and pork on sale.
Smoked a pork shoulder last weekend. Been 10 years since I did that. I still have the touch seems from what the wife said.
Beer can chicken was my specialty when we raised meat birds.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 8:36am
Originally posted by fixer1958 fixer1958 wrote:

We used to have a beef butchered at a local shop when our kids were little.
Buy one from a local farmer. Would last us a year. $1000 total. That was when it was cost effective. Not so much anymore. Bought a half a beef at the start of covid. $2200 and that was a good price.
No more steaks now. Buy burger in bulk and package it myself.
Eat more chicken and pork on sale.
Smoked a pork shoulder last weekend. Been 10 years since I did that. I still have the touch seems from what the wife said.
Beer can chicken was my specialty when we raised meat birds.
Fixer, holy crap, somebody bent you over for that half beef.  We should plan on meeting half way this winter, you could pay for the $5 gas and still come out ahead.  Me and the other beef guys around here haven't jacked up the price NEAR that amount.  Heck, I'd even buy lunch and a beverage of you choosing.Wink


Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 8:53am
I know and I squealed like a pig a little bit. That was by far the best price and had to drive 50 miles and was the start of covid. A lot of weird chit happening then. 
I did split it up so the grown kids would have some anyway.
The way it was, it's done.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 9:03am
A Quarter cost us $2.10/lb from local grower, then paid for Shop to process and package, do not believe we hit $7/lb for entire load.  Trust the beef raiser, even more trust the Slaughter/butcher shop as both local and hard earnest honest people.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 9:06am
We got sides of beef years ago when raising the kids.
Half a hog, for us was preferable, just don’t have that much desire for beef the last couple decades. GMO feeds, breeding for lean, beef just doesn’t taste the same. Just buy as we need at the supermarket, ground beef and occasionally stew meat.

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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 9:12am
Our supplier feeds primarily Grass, Some Supplements, Some grains but uncertain if were GMO.  Good Marbling, Tasty too.  Ground Beef from the Quarter runs around 85-90% fat content, that from the Shop.

Only wife and I these days, seems cousins, Nieces and nephews cannot get out to visit for a meal and BS time so we just do not buy much these days.  1/4 will last us near to a year, 1/4 hog same and six to eight whole processed chickens(Local Grower too) six to seven months as we thaw and cut up later.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 10:26am
$2.65 per pound hanging weight for me.  Neighbor is at $2.75.  Local meat processor is at $.45.  You'll end up less than $5 per pound unless you get all vacuum packed jerky and beef sticks.

As for taste, well, I followed up with on of the last guys, since he was a former customer and hadn't ordered in a few years.  "Just had a porterhouse you could eat without teeth, and the burger is awesome.  Don't know why I ever quit getting your meat."


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2022 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

We raise beef.  Burger is in a chest freezer for sometimes over a year, and it's fine.  HOWEVER, this is in bulk 1 pound or 2 pound packages.  IF we have patties made, they don't last as long, and IF you're dumb enough to put meat in a frost free freezer it isn't going to hold up very well.  
We've had HUNDREDS of family cookouts over the decades with frozen beef patties from multiple sources, ALL of them were great burgers ClapClap !! 


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 6:46am
"Fresh beef never frozen" is a marketing strategy.  Makes it sound so good, as they flop that frozen hockey puck on the frying surface.  In reality, "never frozen" actually concerns me because of all the care it needs to make sure it never spoils!  Frozen doesn't bother me in the slightest, it is a great way to preserve food if done correctly.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 6:58am
Our butcher has a Flash Freezer system, once cut up and packaged they run it in that system then is set in pallet boxes for client orders in another freezer at -10.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 7:14am
Dave I think you're the only person I know of who would know what temperature their butcher's freeze is set to.LOLWink


Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 10:11am
I pay $1.25 a pound for my beef, costs abbot $650 total and get about 200 pounds of meat.  We get 1/4 a year and lasts us all year.


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 10:17am
All that fast food is NOT good for you!!! Cook your own!!!! LOL!! --- GROW YOUR OWN!lol!!!


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Wayne180d Wayne180d wrote:

I pay $1.25 a pound for my beef, costs abbot $650 total and get about 200 pounds of meat.  We get 1/4 a year and lasts us all year.
Your numbers don't add up in any sense.

First of all, 200 pounds of meat out of a quarter would be an ENORMOUS steer.  You get about 60% hoof to hanging, another 60% hanging to packaged.  These are "rule-of-thumb" numbers that stand the test of time.  So, let's back figure that.  200 lbs / .6 = 333 pound hanging quarter.  333 lbs x 4 =1333 pound hanging whole critter.  1333 / .6 = 2222 pound critter on the hoof.  So, unless your farmer is butchering mature bulls for beef....

Then, 200 pounds x $1.25 per pound = $250, but you said $650?

So I'm lost.  You probably get charged for 200 pounds, but 200 pounds hanging weight, approximately 120 pounds in the package.  That's about a perfect size animal to butcher.  

As for your price, well, I've had a few customers tell me I'm an idiot for charging "only" $2.65 per pound hanging weight, that I could get a lot more.  So if true, I guess your farmer is 2x the idiot I am.  No offense, just sayin'!Wink


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 7:26pm
It does escape me though that Red Robbin is still in businessConfused 


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by ac fleet ac fleet wrote:

All that fast food is NOT good for you!!! Cook your own!!!! LOL!! --- GROW YOUR OWN!lol!!!
How do you know WHAT we get from the FF places? They ALL offer salads and Wendys has an AWESOME chili ClapClap
You guys "ASSUME" too much and it makes an A$^ of you Wink


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

It does escape me though that Red Robbin is still in businessConfused 

Ok, I’ll bite(got a feeling I’m going to regret this), what in your mind is wrong with Red Robin?

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Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 9:49pm
I buy it live weight and our steers run close to 1500 pounds.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2022 at 10:47pm
im still lost, but if your paying $650. and getting 200 pounds, then that is about $3.25 per pound package ?? .............. thats close to $1.25 on the hoof.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 6:25am
Originally posted by Wayne180d Wayne180d wrote:

I buy it live weight and our steers run close to 1500 pounds.
$1.25 per pound for live weight is about right usually.

Now, 1/4 of that in the freezer is 1500/4 x.6 x.6 = 135 pounds of meat.

$1.25 x 1500/4 = $470 approximately.  $470/135 pounds of meat in the freezer = $3.47 per pound.  You're getting a decent deal.

No way in H E double hockey sticks you're getting 200 pounds of meat in a quarter of a 1500 pound steer, it just don't work that way.  That's your hanging weight, probably what the butcher is basing his cost on.  $650 - $470 = $180.  $180 /200 pounds = $0.90 per pound for kill/cut/wrap.  That's pretty high, but believable.  If this is the case, then $650 / 135 pounds in the freezer is $4.81 per pound.  That's a little higher than what my sales work out to be, but very much in the ballpark.

Unless you're talking about some of those boneless buffalo wingsLOL




Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 8:18am
OK...i read another post where WAYNE said he cuts his own meat and package... So a 1500 pound hoof ends up about 900 pounds hanging... He buys 1/4 of that or 200- 225 pounds and pays $650 for the hanging quarter.... or about $3. - $3.25 per pound... then he cuts it up as he wants..

Your too cheap Tbone.. raise you price $.50  !!


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 8:54am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

OK...i read another post where WAYNE said he cuts his own meat and package... So a 1500 pound hoof ends up about 900 pounds hanging... He buys 1/4 of that or 200- 225 pounds and pays $650 for the hanging quarter.... or about $3. - $3.25 per pound... then he cuts it up as he wants..

Your too cheap Tbone.. raise you price $.50  !!
Ok, he packs it himself.  But if you're going to compare your costs to buying it elsewhere, you should still do it on a packaged basis.  You lose another portion when you go from hanging to packages, you keep about 60%.  More or less depending on what all you take, like soup bones, short ribs, how much fat you use, etc.  So take that 225, x 60%, = 135 pounds packaged meat.  $650 / 135 = $4.81.

$$$/pounds in the freezer is the only way to compare apples to apples.

And yeah, I'm too cheap!  


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 11:36am
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by ac fleet ac fleet wrote:

All that fast food is NOT good for you!!! Cook your own!!!! LOL!! --- GROW YOUR OWN!lol!!!
How do you know WHAT we get from the FF places? They ALL offer salads and Wendys has an AWESOME chili ClapClap
You guys "ASSUME" too much and it makes an A$^ of you Wink

The wrong assumption most of us keep making is you our a SOMEWHAT NORMAL human. Wink But your Confused questions do keep it interesting.

You keep telling us what good FF you had. So no assumption on our part.  I guess thinking you not lying is an assumption, so you lying to us? 


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 11:41am
YEP.... most of Gassys posts are about hamburgers, fish sandwich, no chicken, great french fries and milk shakes...

Now he says " you assume to much"... maybe i am eating salad and chili !!  

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 1:18pm
And I'm sure that chili is nothing but the finest ingredients too.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

And I'm sure that chili is nothing but the finest ingredients too.

Upton Sinclair?

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

And I'm sure that chili is nothing but the finest ingredients too.
 
YES !!!


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 6:34pm
My OT was on FAST FOOD burgers, how it got to "local  hometown restaurants" is beyond me LOL !! Some of my WORST burgers came from a mom/pop shop, their onion rings were their saving grace Wink


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

[QUOTE=ac fleet]All that fast food is NOT good for you!!! Cook your own!!!! LOL!! --- GROW YOUR OWN!lol!!!
How do you know WHAT we get from the FF places? They ALL offer salads and Wendys has an AWESOME chili ClapClap
You guys "ASSUME" too much and it makes an A$^ of you Wink

The wrong assumption most of us keep making is you our a SOMEWHAT NORMAL human. Wink But your Confused questions do keep it interesting.

You keep telling us what good FF you had. So no assumption on our part.  I guess thinking you not lying is an assumption, so you lying to us? 
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How am I lying ? The salad comment is just my observation on the menu, the Wendys chili I HAVE had and it's AWESOME !!!
The conscious from you guys is that ALL FF is "BAD", IMO, it's not


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 8:08pm
The burger was leading the fast food race ...

Until the hotdog mustard up the energy to ketchup, and emerged the clear wiener.



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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 8:29pm
How am I lying ? The salad comment is just my observation on the menu, the Wendys chili I HAVE had and it's AWESOME !!!
The conscious from you guys is that ALL FF is "BAD", IMO, it's not

Well, in the past 2 years you have NEVER brought up salad... All you talk about is burgers, fries, fish and shakes.....THATS WHAT YOU BUY !...

There is no "conscious" ??  .... several of us said we eat at  McD or others... I eat out a couple times a week with grandkids..

Like ANY topic, there are people that dont like or do like.... McDonalds manages to make a few dollars a year, so they are doing OK..

With over 35,000 locations and more than 700 million served each year, McDonald's is one of the most recognizable brands in history. The company continues to set new records and services over 70 million customers per day.Feb 21, 2022


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 9:06pm
Maybe duck egg salad?Wink

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 9:32pm
with BLUE cheese dressing ! Wink

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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2022 at 8:18am
Freed finally made the news
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mc-donalds-worker-praised-for-kicking-entitled-customer-out-of-drive-thru-024943583.html" rel="nofollow - McDonald's worker praised for kicking 'entitled' customer out of drive-thru (yahoo.com)


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2022 at 12:13pm
Sorry my poor writing skills may have confused you. 


I DID NOT SAY YOU WHERE LYING.  I said I used what you have told us of buying burgers and fries, fishy sandwiches, and other delectable delights of the FF industry. But if you are not partaking of FF then you lied to the people here.  



I have never read a nutrition expert say FF is good nutrition. They also like to fool people and some of the salads end up being super high calories. A classic of that is the Taco Bell salad in the eatable torta bowl.

Have a good time deciding which burger joint to give your money to tonight as you wife is on a budget. According to your own words. Oh if you want to eat cheaper and better food (less of the ingredients you cannot pronounce) bulk rice and beans will keep you going a long time real cheap. 



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