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Frozen rusted steering clutch HD5G

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Topic: Frozen rusted steering clutch HD5G

Posted By: WaltDevore
Subject: Frozen rusted steering clutch HD5G
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 7:42pm

The challenges continue to test me. The brake was frozen too but once I got the engine running it was able to break free. I filled the steering clutch compartment after plugging it with a deruster, about 4 1/2 gallons. Drove it back and forth many times working the steering clutch lever which I believe I have adjusted properly. So far, no breaking loose with the clutch.

Any wizards with magic tricks?

Thanks!

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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 11:19pm

Walt, after owning several HD6G's, there is no magic. Its best to just bite the bullit and pull it apart. I had a steering clutch stick on mine. I left it set all winter full of expensive penetrating fluid. It had to come apart. I was lucky to find everything I needed from a guy in Wisconsin.

Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2021 at 12:12pm

The only other thing to try is riding the brake to warm it up and then put bucket against something sold and hold the clutches and let the tracks spin. But I never had it work. I always pulled things apart. I believe General Gear in Idaho has new steer clutch parts. I see lots of good things about them.

Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2021 at 9:17am

I am just completing my third steering clutch rebuild/repair. The steering on these machines are old and worn, The HD11B I am doing is a 1956 tractor . The throwout bearings were full of rust, the linkage is stiff, the sleeve which slides on the clutch drive hub was seized. The spacer discs were, for the most part, unusable due to the severity of the rust. Then you get to the friction disc teeth seized to the brake drum. the lube hoses to the throwout bearings will probably be disintegrated as well. Take it apart, clean and repair/replace as needed, assemble with anti seize and grease. When it is finished, it will work as advertised and it will be depandable.

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Curt Anderson
HD3, HD5B, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400,615, 616,620,720,ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Grader, AC 540 loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity tractors, Agco MT225, Agco 2025,

Posted By: WaltDevore
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2021 at 11:08pm

SUCCESS!!!

I started with some rust remover concentrate I've had laying around for ten years. I gave that about 36 hours. Then I got some red dye off road diesel and refilled the compartment. Ran the track about every six hours. Took the advice (thanks so much) and pushed against a bank with both steering clutches pulled back. Gave it repetitive gentle bashes with engine clutch. After about ten minutes the track stopped turning. I couldn't believe it. Releasing the steering clutch restored power to the track.

I've had a two day burst of miracles. I drove down to Denver to get the rear hatch glass replaced. I couldn't find the glass place so I stopped to call for directions. My beloved Pointer jumped out the window without me knowing. Ten minutes later upon getting the glass place I realized he was gone. Oh my God. I had yet to put his collar on as I was going to walk him to pass the time. I called a friend who posted pictures on a site for me. About two hours he was turned in to a shelter. Absolute miracle we were reunited. There are so many wonderful people. The silent majority? I couldn't have lived without him. So the next day the steering clutch releases. I practically feel non corporeal.

So much thanks to you kind souls who have supported me through this massive project! I'm about to turn 70 and I hope this outrageous intentional suffering will steel me to keep on keeping on. Bless all of you!

Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2021 at 3:47pm

If you decide to replace clutch plates go with the HD11 ceramic ones . I did that on my HD5G many years back and no problems since
I do have a pile of the fiber discs which are slightly worn and a few of the steel spacer plates left from another machine i scrapped

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