4W305 - CUMMINS
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Topic: 4W305 - CUMMINS
Posted By: WD45
Subject: 4W305 - CUMMINS
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 7:21am
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I was asked has anyone installed a Cummins in the 4W305.
Which Cummins engine, any adapter plate required. If so were
does one purchase the plate and any other items required to do the conversion.
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Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 7:49am
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Howdy WD45,
I can't answer your question but, I have seen a AC 4W305 with a cummins in. Sure changes the look of it. You lose your pipes coming out the top of the hood and this big, big exhaust pipe comes outside the cab on the right side. Me myself like the old NOS like.
Thanks Kurzy
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 8:02am
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http://www.kjrepower.com/ - http://www.kjrepower.com
Contact these guys. C8.3 engines are replacement
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 8:29am
An 8.3 is more suitable for a 426 replacement in a 7580/4W220. to replace the 731 I would suggest at least an L10 if not an 855.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 9:29am
I see the owners Reg. has a few 8550's listed with 855's in them
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 9:44am
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Kevin from Alabama, who posts on here, has a 4W 305 with a cummins in it. If he sees this, He'd probably give you some steps in the right direction.
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Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 11:10am
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Has anyone heard of putting a N14 in one?
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Posted By: jmm
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 12:58pm
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No, but if you can do 855, then you can do n-14
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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 1:48pm
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Since the N14 is the latest 855 DUH!
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Posted By: Burgie
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 3:08pm
Talk to Everitt Hunley in Austin Indiana.
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"Burgie"
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Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 10:11am
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I just thought the N14 was rated with more power, but I know it has more electrical to it and didn't know how one would work.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 11:21am
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I guess I'd prefer using the Cummins L10 (10 liter) or M11 (11 liter) as both are 305 HP or more and would weigh less and be shorter/smaller/easier to fit and would match radiator capacity better than a larger displacement engine such as the 855/N14.
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Posted By: jmm
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 1:54pm
Posted By: jmm
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 1:55pm
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I've got a lot of respect for the M11. I drove a log truck with a 444 cummins, little tired and poorly tuned, i'm sure, but a buddy drove a truck with a M11 with a drop axle and would run circles around me on some of the big hills around here
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Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2010 at 7:27pm
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My neighbors had a 4W 305 with an 855 in it. I think the 855 has more torque than the tractor really was designed for. Theirs spent a little more time getting trans/dropbox repairs than they really wanted. I have an 855 in a blue versatile and so far it has been an excellent engine. The M11 probably wouldn't have the torque, and might be a little gentler on the driveline. The M11 can make a lot of power, too.
This is what they sound like with a straight pipe. My wife says it sounds angry.
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