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Topic: Zenith carb venturi
Posted By: Luke114
Subject: Zenith carb venturi
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 9:52am
On an Allis C, Zenith carb has #216937 on the outer ring of the plate, and S906 on the inner.  Venturi is trashed.  How do I figure out what venturi will fit in this? 

Were the Marvel and Zenith carbs used interchangably on the B's and C's?  Does it go by year? thanks



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Posted By: C in Concord
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:38pm
Parts book says its part# 223808 (or 70223808) - VENTURI (size 13).  Zenith carbs 212844, 212845, & 216937 all take the same part.  Sandy Lake Implement Co. is your best bet.  Otherwise Alex09(WI) had a 212845 on hand that could be used a as a donor, if he still has it...
 
Can't answer the Marvel/Zenith swap question.  Only dealt with Zeniths thus far.
 
Ben


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Leave things better than you found them.

1941 Model C (restored 2020)


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:40pm
I have only seen Marvels on B/C's
D10/12's I see Zeniths

Might look here:
https://www.mcdonaldcarb.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mcdonaldcarb.com/


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:42pm
page 4 of his Zeniths parts shows venturi's

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

I have only seen Marvels on B/C's
D10/12's I see Zeniths

Might look here:
https://www.mcdonaldcarb.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mcdonaldcarb.com/

X-2! They have a lot of stuff.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:47pm
The carb used on the B and C tractors could fit several different brand tractors... You change the venturi and the main jet to adjust for different displacements and rpm needed... I think the B and C tractors had a 9/16 inch bore venturi... Double check when you buy to see that you get that bore.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 1:49pm
There were a couple years ( during the war)  where marvel carbs were used on some B tractors... Dont know if the Zenith were not available, or if ALLIS was just pushing Zenith to keep the price down.

I have a list of carbs by year / model number... this is part of 1944...




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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 2:01pm
I believe your carb came off a 1947 KEROSENE tractor






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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Luke114
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 4:36pm
Thank you for the info, everybody.  Very interesting, especially about the possiblity of kerosene!!??  The tractor was not running when I got it, but its history indicates that it was running well with this carb.  Whether it was original, or has had jets swapped, who knows. 

I will check out McDonald carb.  Looks like a good resource.

As an alternative, what # of Marvel carb should I look for if I can't fix the Zenith?



Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 4:51pm
my post above lists one of the Marvel Carbs used during the war..

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.



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