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Topic: Gleaner k filler bars
Posted By: bleeds orange
Subject: Gleaner k filler bars
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 7:26pm
I have a field of corn with high moisture, plus other fields with moisture around 23% if i install filler bars to do the high moisture piece is it OK to leave filler bars in to do the fields with a much lower moisture?

Thanks cory



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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 7:41pm
Yes.          MACk


Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 8:11pm
Thanks


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 10:54am
Make an effort each season to unbolt combine’s throat’s topside access panel, clean out cylinder, & inspect each filler bar’s retaining nuts(threaded metal finger)& bolts for tightness. Sometimes those retaining nuts will rotated, fatigue, and loosen. A loose filler bar becomes a rotating mass grabbing return auger, rear beater shield, & rear beater. Don’t ask me how I know.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 5:53pm
I guess I don't understand the need for the time-consuming job of installing these filler bars Cry. We've run 27% corn in a tough year and never (don't even own a set) installed a set of filler bars for an F2 ?? Now that I think about it, not for an A or straight F  either Wink.


Posted By: Ricky D
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 6:11pm
Dealer told me they don't use them anymore.???


Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 6:14pm
Don't waste your time with the filler bars, been running my F for the past 15 years without them, I've never noticed any difference no matter what moisture the corn has been.

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 7:10am
Corn hybrids have improved greatly over the decades to shell easier with less cob break-up. Moisture levels come down quicker than they did decades ago as well. For those who say "you'll NEVER need filler bars in corn" you haven't been shelling corn as many years as some of us have or seen the wrong conditions that necessitated their use. Gleaner didn't invent them for no reason.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 7:40am
Doc, when I worked at the AC dealer, more accurately the AGCO dealer, back in the early 90's, the older mechanics and the owners told me that some time in the 50's, AC sent up engineers to their shop to test corn combining with an A and two row head. Peterson brothers, the dealership owners, farmed a bunch of acres too and so the testing was on their farm as I remember it told. It was a cold late harvest with wet corn and they were having lots of trouble breaking up cobs. It was so cold and the A had no cab, they had to take turns each round running the combine. At night the combine would go back to the shop but they just couldn't stop the cobs from breaking up. One night after the engineers left for their motel, Pickle Johnson and I think a couple of the Peterson brothers.... maybe Kermit and Arland.... don't quite remember, came up with fashioning angle irons to bolt in between the rasp bars. They didn't say anything to the engineers the next day. They took the combine out to the field and it was a night and day difference. The engineers asked them what they did and that's how the filler bars came about..... that's what I was told anyhow.

PS the engineers were from down south and really didn't like a Minnesota winter and the corn was especially good that year here too and one of them told the Peterson brothers that they came up here to harvest corn not trees!


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 7:59am
Filler bars promote better and more complete shelling of the kernels and do it at slower cylinder speeds improving grain quality. Again, the variety of the corn and the moisture level weigh heavily on these results.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 8:21am
I raised some white cob yellow corn 25+ yrs ago that was very hard to remove from cob. Filler bars made the difference. Made the A2 work a little. Had this F2 20yrs and not needed to use them yet.



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