2800 engine code
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Topic: 2800 engine code
Posted By: grinder220
Subject: 2800 engine code
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 5:05pm
Can someone tell me the original application for this engine?
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Replies:
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 7:44am
| I have never had any "catalog" book for AC engines to tell me the year of build or what the application was. There's orange paint on it, so that leads me to think it's NOT construction. A picture of both sides of the engine would be very helpful. A casting date on the block or cylinder head would indicate the possible year built. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 7:57am
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If you look in the parts book for a 180 or 190 it will give the part number/catalog number for the complete engine, and this number is it. It's difficult to reverse search though. I don't think that info is on the agco parts books though, it's in the older paper parts books. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 8:38am
| This engine is in a 64 190. Obviously its a later block but I wasn't sure if it came from another 190 or a 180. To me it has a little different tone from what I remember a straight 190 having. It seems to be too quiet,not as much rattle or knock. Is there a difference in pump timing between a 180 and 190 pump? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 8:48am
| Older non-timing advance engines are quieter and I don't think they have as much sleeve Oring problems either. 180 timed at 22 degrees and 190 was 26 or 28 degrees…. |
Posted By: ACjack
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 9:10am
| It might be a non tractor engine it could be from a combine. All of the West Allis (tractor) engines were painted a buff green. It looks like a very flat pea soup green. The combine (Independence) engines only got the orange paint on them. If it's a combine engine you'll only find a coating of red oxide paint under the orange. Scrap off some of the orange paint and look to see if there is a base color. All of the West Allis engines were painted a "buff green" color. If you find that then it was a West Allis (tractor) engine. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 9:19am
| Many/most combine engines had a timing cover/front plate shaped so there was no way a hydraulic pump could ever be installed. |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 2:20pm
| grinder220...In following Ed's comment, the older pre 1975 book versions may be more apt to have that info....Dale |