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Topic: Sleaves for 226 allis motor
Posted By: Robacpuller
Subject: Sleaves for 226 allis motor
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 4:37pm
I make sleaves for 226 for 4.600 bore. They r used john deer 466 sleaves.
The demesion r.
Top flange is .185
Outside of flange is 4.970
The barrel is 4.880
Bottom is 4.820
O-ring on top of sleave is .015, can get without o-ring.
Inside bore is 4.560
The inside will have to b bored.
U will have to bore block to fit sleave.
$90.00 per sleave.
Call or text or pm with questions. Sorry about all the pics, not technically savvy
Rob 608 228 4843.



Replies:
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:07pm
Rob, 
Is this sleeve intended to seal the bottom of the block with o rings or are pullers using some other type of material in the blocks??
 It looks like a good option to gain more cubic inches.
Any recommendations as to the pistons that could be used in these sleeves?
Not being a serious puller I have more questions than answers.

Regards,
 Chris 


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 9:44pm
Chris they r not o-ringed, I use a high temp epoxy on the bottom of sleave. Some use right stuff silicone. The ring on top is to seal compression with using a copper head gasket. I use bbc flat top pistons 4.600 bore with a 1.270 compression height. 8 inch rods, 6 inch crank.


Posted By: bsallis180
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 3:05am
Ever bore in to the main oil galley at 4.820 at the bottom?


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 6:35am
Nope not even close.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 6:39am
There is no main oil galley. The camshaft is hollow and it is the main artery for getting oil from the center of the block to each end.


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 9:04am
So that combo would be 399 cubes. That must make a WD series tractor turn the tires pretty well! Looks like the pistons are in the $100 each range. I didnt check on 8 inch rods.
 are those Chevy also? Thanks for the information on sealing the sleeves also. Don't think I am ever going to go this route but always good to learn a little too.
I assume there some folks running these higher hp engines and being competitive too?
 Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 7:28pm
I run a 37 wc, 18.4 x 34 tires. It runs good.


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 10:13am
Rob,
Awesome tractor! Thanks for posting the picture.
Regards,
Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: frnkeore
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2020 at 2:39am
Awesome!

What weight class do you run it in?


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Frank
1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14
'55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861
Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more.


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2020 at 5:41am
I run 3500 to 5000 lb. classes. 4 to 6 mph.I also run 15 x 5 38.tires depending on were im pulling and rules. It pulls best in 4000 and above.
It's a fun tractor.


Posted By: RichinIL
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2020 at 10:24am
Are these ductile iron sleeves?


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2020 at 8:42pm
Im guessing they r, they r out of a john deer 466 motor. I've been using them along time with 11.5 to compression. They r hard to turn.


Posted By: RichinIL
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2020 at 6:55pm
Can they turned to make for a 4.625 bore


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2020 at 7:53pm
I usually keep them at 4.600. It's do able but it will get thin. If u don't do anything with air flow , cam, carb, dialing in cam and cam grind head work the extra cubes won't do much.I have a real good cam grind that works good with big cubes.


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 11:30am
I have no idea what kind of power (HP) they make. 
I have a basic "stock" 226 puller putting out 60 HP or so.


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Robacpuller
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 9:00pm
Charlie it should tip the century mark plus.



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