The JW’s stopped by
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Topic: The JW’s stopped by
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: The JW’s stopped by
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 7:04am
| Yesterday. I was in the middle of scraping up some very hard thinset. I asked if they wanted to help. They scattered like Elizabeth Warren supporters at a job fair. |
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 7:13am
 Good one------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 8:10am
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There are 2 different JWs from Missouri on here . Were they both there ? Never seen them together in one spot. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 8:28am
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friend got fed up of them knocking on door before 8AM, every weekend so..... when they knocked again, he confirmed it was them(door peep glass), then opened the door FAST and said can I help you ? being naked as a jaybird, the lady and teen daughter, turned tail and left, never to come back.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 9:34am
Must not of seen anything they liked.  ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 10:25am
Whoa,,,,Chit,,Chask,,,thas a great one,,,but,,,but,,you best be beggin forgiveness,,cause he gonna pay you back,,I'm thinkin,,,
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chaskaduo wrote:Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 10:33am
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The mens JW's must be doin something else these days as all I get are the women folks out at my place,,,,,, Soon's they notice ole Hungry,,,they go to talkin and jibberin to each other really fast,,tryin to decide which one is gonna get out first,,,,long bout that time,,,,I'll quietly sic ole Hungry, (who's patiently been waitin on my signal) and,,,and,,,he'll stick thet big ole tail straight up and perk his ears up and just BELLOW out one of his strongest barks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that does the trick in settlin who Ain't gonna get out and they leave in a haste and,,,and,,, leave the area pretty quick,,,,works every time,,,,,, But,,,you do got admire their persistance, tho,,,,,,
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 11:36am
This was the women’s folk. Last time they caught Jenn when my mom was here.£££ They were shocked to see me. I liked them two elderly gals. They were very nice. I did listen to a bit and then invited them to scrape thinset. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 3:21pm
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Us JW's ain't all bad. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 4:16pm
Chask across the hwy is a welding shop owned by a father and son. Super good guys. We all belong to the same Blacksmith organization. They like old cars and trucks. When they come by we usually wind up out in my shop lookin at stuff. They still give me the message. |
Posted By: weiner
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 5:06pm
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They must take Matthew 28:18-20 seriously. I don`t believe all they have to say, but I admire their persistence. ------------- Real heros wear dogtags, not capes. |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 5:23pm
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One afternoon a few years ago I decided to walk around our acreage to air dry after getting out of the hot tub. Our yard was fairly secluded with a chain link fence around the finished part of the yard and a motorized chain link fence at the top of the driveway. I was about 2/3rd's of the way from the house walking toward the gate when I noticed two ladies on the other side. Since I had been fully visible from when I left the house I decided I might as well keep on walking. They were JW's, one was about my age and the other younger. The older lady proceeded to tell me about their pamphlet and the young lady had the pamphlets. The younger lady was obviously embarrassed when she had to come over to me to hand out the pamphlet. It was all about Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. How appropriate. I really dropped the ball though. I should have invited them in to fully experience my Garden of Eden. I don't that JW's ever dropped by again. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 7:23pm
| persistant? whew...yeah! 2 of them ladies chased me down in the field while I was disking. I would have stopped sooner cept in was kekkid on my tractor...seeking my all over tan that day! was kinda funny watching them gals walk thru the disking in their high heels! |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 7:40pm
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Years ago I had 3 JW salesmen. We never discussed their beliefs. Were not afraid of cold calls !!! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2019 at 6:40am
AND,,I DO agree with ole Chask on this one. They is mostly GOOD in all religions, and those that will volunteer to go out and try to convert hellions and face naked men and barkin dogs are only tryin to help,,! What I have against any such as them,,is that most of them will try to tell me that my religion is WRONG and theirs is Right. I've had em tell me that " The ONLY'IST way to heaven is thru their church" and that right there is wrong,!! I'm wantin to go to Heaven too,,,I just ain't wantin to go now,,,!!! There is good in every religion,,it's the interpatration of some of their scriptures by some of their faithful that gets out of hand. SO,,Chask,,,you in the clear,,,,,,
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2019 at 9:19am
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Thanks Joe, I believe it's what's in your heart that Jehovah looks at. You can't hide it from him. I'm sure most of us will be in his new kingdom when the time comes. I believe he looks at the effort to do what's right and not for perfection or none of us would make it. I will step down now and let someone else have at it. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2019 at 9:46pm
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Didn't have much of a religious upbringing and one of my 1st "true loves" was a Jehovah's Witness. I was 21 and she was 19 and still living at home. Her parents decided I was "evil and no good" without even meeting me and her church elders forbade her from seeing me anymore. I was willing to consider the church but their premptive judgment of me turned me off. I finally did confront her parents and the only reason they could give me for not liking me was they wanted their daughter to marry within the church. If they would have given me a chance I may have become a member of the church. 30 years later I have been with the same woman for 20+ years 3 teenagers, a newer house that we had built to our plans and other than my new truck, no debt. She has gone through 5 different (that I know of) long term boyfriends including 3 engagements and 2 marriages/2 divorces, but by joe, they were within the church. When the JWs stop by (none recently as I think my address has been blacklisted) I ask them questions they have no answer for, like "why would I join a religion that judges people before they even get to meet them?". I found the religion to be very interesting and worth consideration, but with the "attitude" of the local church I think I will pass. Again no offense to any particular members of this forum, just speaking from experience.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2019 at 9:51pm
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A friend of mine was visited by a whole herd of JW's. They talked for a few minutes and he kept noticing a woman about his age kind of standing in the back of the pack. He realized that she was someone he had once known in a "Biblical Way". He didn't say anything to her but her face started getting red. He told the group he needed to finish watching a porn movie and closed the door. She must have changed her ways, or not! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 4:14am
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This is my story,,and it the troot,,,,,,,, When I first started workin at the refinery,,you get hired for shiftwork and after you build seniority, you can bid to a day job when they come open. Anyway I get assigned to a unit, figurin I'm gonna put in 5+ years before bidding out so figure I'm gonna make the most of this,,,,, The wife and I were both practising Catholics and this group of 5 operators were all of different religions and each one kept their own bible in their lockers. On evening and midnight shifts, it was always pretty lively after dark as once the unit was secure, the bibles came out and the discussions commenced. I would just sit there and wonder which two were gonna finally start fighting,,,,cause they would start yelling at each other bout how THEIR religion was the only'ist way anybody was gonna get to heaven,,I mean, I really thought they was gonna go to fist city every night,,,,, after bout 3 straight hours of this arguing,,with nobody making any rounds out in the unit,,,the phone rings ,,and it's the blender operator informing them that they are fixin to start running ,,,,"Cherry Red" which was "Hi Test" back in them days,,,,They would all put up their bibles and one by one leave the unit and drive their trks to the blender Unit and fill up their 12 Jerry cans with the Hi Test Gasoline,,,,,,It kinda bothered them that I did not have any cans to fill,,,but that never stopped them,,,,,. After they all filled up, then the discussions would start right up , them arguing which religion was best,,,,,,, Guess it takes all kinds,,,,,
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 9:19am
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Yep the old adage, "Never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table with guests" has a lot of sense to it. I usually don't start religious conversations but will participate if asked. I am not of the school that only the JW's will be in Gods new kingdom when it comes. The good at heart and MEEK shall inherit the earth. Meek is not necessarily weak and pansy either. I hope I haven't raised any ones blood pressure. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 10:33am
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I worked shiftwork, had a HUGE sign on the front door, DO NOT RING BELL OR KNOCK, SHIFTWORKER. More than once some little group of JWs or Chritian Fellowship did not pay attention, so when or AS I opened the front door in my Skivies I just pointed at the SIGN, turned and closed the door. After the fourth go round I dare say word got out, nobody rang the bell except the local PD, they I could see thru the peephole and wore a Robe, they DID Apologize the others not so much so. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 11:45am
You've done a good job of not raising anyone's blood pressure. I've known several good people that happened to be JW. Guess now I can count you, though I don't technically know you. Gotta admit, don't know a lot about the religion itself. More hearsay and war stories really. My Mom had a really bad experience or memory relating to it when she was a little girl. A neighbor, I believe the man was JW and the woman was not. Married, a couple of young kids, Christmas time. And not their first one together, so for whatever reason, Christmas Eve, the guy snapped. Freaked out, yelling, calling his wife the devil, tore the tree down and threw it and all the presents outside, kids crying. Yeesh....
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 1:39pm
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Thad, you just had to have a JW thread didn't ye... and today a car load showed up... but they musta been afraid, only one ventured out. LOL... Actually I had a friend that was a JW and we had talked for hours over the years and he would have his Bible and I would pull out the KJ and Amp. and compare them and the one thing he was dead set against was the gifts mentioned in the Bible... as desciples, they were given the gifts...but my friend said that was for only those... but I told him that they were as available today as it was 2000 years ago. He just couldn't accept that idea. Oh well. ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 9:20pm
| I gots LOTS of friends that are JW's and other religions...me?...I just hope God isn't to picky! |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 2:27am
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Thanks Tbones, I appreciate that and will try not to let it go to my head. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 3:03am
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My motto is that ALL religions are good,,,and it is what is in a man's heart and how he treats his fellow man that will matter when " The Day Of Reckoning" comes.
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Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 5:07pm
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Well said Joe ------------- We the unwilling Led by the unqualified Doing the impossible for the Ungrateful |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 12:36am
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A good friend I use to work with and a Babtist - well one day I asked him if he had any call on him and how did he dismiss them politely . He said he doesn't in fact he invites them in - it seems on their day of call they prep themselves on some versed and then go out and witness those passages . So he has them set down and they start in - he says just a moment and gets his good book to follow along - then points to another passage that contradicts their reading - after a few minutes he has them so confused by his knowledge they try to excuse themselves . So he just asks if they want to come back later and study the good book further as he has all day open to share the WORD . Never has had any call after the 2nd time he had a bible study class invite to any more. Said he must be a marked man now and no hope of getting enlightened to change his beliefs In the 20 years I worked with him I discussed many things with him, asked questions and got answers but never did he try to push or preach one way or another but just gave his view and his reference to where he found his answers to questions . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 11:29am
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There are all kinds ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 1:35pm
| I gots around 30 bee hives in my front yard. The only people that stops are the mail man, UPS, Speedie, and customers. I ain't bothered with these folks. |
Posted By: marion
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 6:23pm
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wasn't it in a Buffalo Springfield song (how can everybody be right if everybody is wrong)? religion, politics, wrestling have lots incommon |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 8:53pm
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Joe and others, I agree with you that there is good in most religions, a lot of good in some of them. And there are a lot of good people out there that are not religious at all and they do a lot of good for people. And people whom you think are very "religious" still do things that are wrong. However..........according to what I read in my Bible (KJV) and believe it is not religion or goodness that saves you but what Christ did on the cross and believing in His death, burial and resurrection. But don't take my word for it, read it for yourself starting with the gospel of John. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 10:00pm
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The few times I have had JW's stop by, I said I would like to discuss it with them, if they would just wait until I got my Bible (KJ). One occasion they did, and we had a good discussion, but they had no answers for my Scripture references I offered. Two other times I didn't have time to talk to them, but asked if they would give me a time and day that they would return, and I would be glad to talk to them. They didn't. The bottom line is, as Hubert says, all I can go by is the Bible. I believe the Bible because there are plenty of self proofs in it to remove all doubt for me. When people say "good people", my question is, compared to what? The Bible says all men are sinners ('for all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God'). The Bible also says the qualification for entrance into heaven is perfection ('be ye therefor perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect'). So I am a sinner, cannot possibly meet the demands for entrance into heaven, I have a problem. God, in his mercy gave me grace, in the form of His Son, Jesus. Jesus, born a man, lived a perfect life, and suffered the price for my sins, on the cross, all I need do is believe. 'For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith, and that, not of yourself, it is a gift of God, not of good works, lest any man should boast'. Eph 2:8-9 It is true that part of that faith is seeking to walk the way of Christ, but that is not the means of my salvation, because I could never do it good enough. That, in a nut shell is the basis of my faith, FWIW The first two Scripture quotes, forgive me by my brain/memory is failing me now, I can get the references if anyone is interested ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 10:34pm
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Not long after we were married, and in our first house, we started getting knocks on the doors. My wife doesn't like people appearing unannounced (like... they didn't call on the phone first)... so she asked if there was anything I could do about it. I won't identify any particular organization, but they were religous, and nice, but it was clearly a waste of their time to try to draw us in, as she teaches at a Catholic school... She saw one coming... it was a warmer day in early fall... football season, and her game was on. SHE is a college football fan, and drinks beer. I'll watch a game, but I'm not a sports nut, nor do I drink alcohol (I'm enough of an idiot)... but she saw them coming, and called me out of the shower... so I stepped out, soaking wet, grabbed my alley-cannon and picked up her beer... went over to the door, and opened it buck-naked-wet. I don't think anyone ever knocked on our door for evangelical reasons since then... I had a buddy in high school... he was Mormon... I don't recall which type, but he told me about his summer 'missionary' assignments, and knocking on doors was only one of several. He spent half of one summer building houses, and another replanting a forest... and another as a veterenary assistant somewhere. I thought all that was absolutely great, and the world would be a better place if our formative years included those kinds of things. Now, I DID ask him about having multiple wives, and his answer was dead serious, but absolutely perfect: "Hell NO! One will be BAD ENOUGH..." Another co-worker of mine became a JW several years after discharge from the USMC... and he was a very straight-laced guy, with never a discouraging word, until the one day we're boarding a plane for Vasteraas, Sweden, and I mentioned to him that I was up basically all night worried that I'd forget something silly like my passport... and his eyes got wide, and he said things that'd make a sailor blush... But I propose that 'rule of social discussion' should be to exlude Politics, Religion, and Chain Saws, as all three of these topics generate the same result... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 3:58am
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Some years back, after a bad fire at work, a good friend of mine, received burns over a large part of his body and the word went out for blood donors. The Dr's at burn center said that he "might" have a chance with a blood transfusion but little to none without one. There was a line of people at ER waiting to donate when his wife told the Dr's that their religion did not permit him receiving any blood from others. I could not believe it,,! Gary passed the next day.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 7:04am
| I cannot understand people putting their religion over the well being of their family...such as Joe said above. i'm sure they will be forgiven afterwards. I've seen parents letting their kids pass away because of something that could have been used to prevent it! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 9:48pm
I had a friend of a Christianity-based religion that held similar belief set. My answer was that it was my understanding that Jesus gave his blood for all others, and it is my understanding that anyone who is Christian, by definition, has accepted it in spirit... it's clearly his intention that we're supposed to help others...  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 12:53am
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Do the Islam faith believe in Jesus? That he was crucified and died and risen again for our salvation and shed his blood for you and me... and for them...? Through the shedding of Jesus's blood... 1 Corinthians 11:23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: that the Lord Jesus, on the night He was betrayed, took bread, 24 https://biblehub.com/greek/2532.htm" rel="nofollow - and https://biblehub.com/greek/2168.htm" rel="nofollow - when He had given thanks, https://biblehub.com/greek/2806.htm" rel="nofollow - He broke it https://biblehub.com/greek/2532.htm" rel="nofollow - and https://biblehub.com/greek/2036.htm" rel="nofollow - said, https://biblehub.com/greek/3778.htm" rel="nofollow - “This https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm" rel="nofollow - is https://biblehub.com/greek/1473.htm" rel="nofollow - My https://biblehub.com/greek/4983.htm" rel="nofollow - body, https://biblehub.com/greek/3588.htm" rel="nofollow - which is https://biblehub.com/greek/5228.htm" rel="nofollow - for https://biblehub.com/greek/4771.htm" rel="nofollow - you; https://biblehub.com/greek/4160.htm" rel="nofollow - do https://biblehub.com/greek/3778.htm" rel="nofollow - this https://biblehub.com/greek/1519.htm" rel="nofollow - in https://biblehub.com/greek/364.htm" rel="nofollow - remembrance https://biblehub.com/greek/1699.htm" rel="nofollow - of Me.” 25. In
the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the
new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in
remembrance of Me.”… John 14:6 Contexthttps://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-3/" rel="nofollow - - 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-4/" rel="nofollow - - 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-5/" rel="nofollow - - 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-7/" rel="nofollow - - 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-8/" rel="nofollow - - 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-14-9/" rel="nofollow - - 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 8:48am
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Dave Kamp and JC,,,those two posts are great and will serve for all of us to "politely" inform the JW's when they come around,,,,,,,,fact of the matter,,,I now look forward to talkin to em when they do come around,,,just to get their comments,,,It should be interesting and,,,and I am going to ask em bout my friend,,Gary, who is no longer here with us enjoying HIS family,,,,
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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 12:49pm
In the JW world Yahweh comes first over anything else from what I have been told.
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Posted By: trace
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 4:23pm
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they do not celebrate christmas. ------------- 1955 WD-45 WIDE FRONT W/ TRIP LOADER |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 9:36pm
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Yeah,,and I've been told that some JW people that lived here did travel to Lubbock, Tx to get a procedure done on the wife, cause they did not want other people here to know they were getting it done. I'm glad they did and hope they had no regrets afterwards,,,,,,,
I expect them are not the only'ist ones that do the same thing,,,,, |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 10:35am
Well.....certainly not the way most of us do! And not all in a bad way, if you catch my meaning.
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 2:07pm
Agree Tbone
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