190 puller
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Topic: 190 puller
Posted By: Bobo Husker
Subject: 190 puller
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 9:47am
Hoping for some advice. Completed a-pump installation on 190. Works great however when I pull, I'm getting a crazy bounce. Some ole timers said not enough tire pressure, I'm running 13 psi on Good year dynatorques. 18.4r38. Some said try dropping hitch 1/2" and also could be clutch. I'm running an Atlas 11" double disk. I use 7th gear.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Posted By: Steve Bright
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 12:03pm
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Sounds like power hop to me, Not balanced correctly
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Posted By: frnkeore
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 12:04pm
My thought's are, to much pressure.
More air pressure will give you less of a contact patch and you'll spin earlier. Not good.
Less will give you, more contact and have less energy to bounce. I believe that the only way to start a bounce, is to have slippage, first.
Sometimes, problems can be diagnosed with extremes, see what happens at 8 lb.
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Frank
1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14
'55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861
Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more.
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 12:34pm
radials?
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 1:02pm
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Yes radials. It starts in front till whole tractor will bounce.
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Posted By: Allisplumber
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 2:20pm
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I would say try less pressure in the rear tires, a flat ball doesn’t bounce, I have better luck with my 200 with the tires softer and have enough weights to move around to balance it out , do you have a center weight bar , weights in the middle seem to do better, just my opinion
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 2:56pm
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I do have a weight bracket in front of rear tires.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 7:22am
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Weigh the tractor as you have it. If it weighs 6000 lbs, I would try 2000 lbs on front wheels and 4000 lbs on the rear wheels AS A STARTING POINT. Also, shift it into road gear and see if the clutch slips or kills the engine. That will diagnose that issue. Sounds like you are too heavy on the nose.
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 10:07am
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I have to weigh 6500# total. I'm in 7th. Its 20mph pace.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:10pm
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So it looks like 4400 on the rear and 2100 on the front.
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Posted By: goomer
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 7:44pm
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I run 13-14psi and seems to work good. Firestone 23 degrees. Narrow tire stance with tires an inch from stock fender location. 190 a-pump 7th gear also. 6500lbs, I run with no weights and no bounce. 7500lbs 3-5 weights on front the rest on the back. Before I removed power director had a lil bounce off the line up to maybe 100 foot line but none on the other end. I'd try different tires.
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 2:16pm
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Yup I dont run PD either. I'm going to try hitch height alittle lower first. I'm weighted pretty much as Dr Allis suggested.
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 2:33pm
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Goomer-what do you run for a clutch?
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 2:50pm
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Stupid question, how do you run 7 th gear without a Power director?
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 5:37pm
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Coupled straight to low side.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 7:56pm
Posted By: goomer
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 9:52pm
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I run a 2 disc kennys pulling clutch
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 10:24pm
Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 8:47am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do3f5LTTLvw&feature=share" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do3f5LTTLvw&feature=share
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 8:49am
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Dr Allis, I moved weight back. Helped alot. Seems like still abit front heavy? Taking notes for next year.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 5:57pm
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In the video, it looks like you have 250-400 lbs on the front ?? Too heavy in that run as it never picked up the front wheels once.
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Posted By: Bobo Husker
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 6:05pm
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I had 400 on front 200 on belly. Makes sence though. Think I need to find some 75lb weights. Thanks again!
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