Paint; AC Orange where to buy or match recipe?
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Topic: Paint; AC Orange where to buy or match recipe?
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Subject: Paint; AC Orange where to buy or match recipe?
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 6:20pm
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Any one got recommendations on where a guy could get a couple quarts of AC orange to spray ? Thought about makena runinto the Tractor Supply tomorrow and seein if I could get lucky... probably will be somethin I can’t buy in town: guessin I’ll havta order it off the Internet Thanks for your input folks! |
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 7:53pm
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57, I just picked some up from local paint store. I have not sprayed any yet the sample they showed me looked more like PO#2??? It is a Sherwin Williams industrial brand. I did not do much research on this brand. Its going to be several days before I spray any. I will try to keep you up to date. The Tractor supply paint may not be PO#1 which is the color correct for your WD. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:25pm
| How close are you to a Agco dealer?😂 I get my paint there. Decent price and the quality is very good. Ryan |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:46pm
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There are 3 different AC Orange colors Persian Orange(1) which is what your WD was painted with, PO2(D15 on) and Corporate Orange and probably 20 different off brand colors that claim to be AC Orange. PPG 60080 is a very good match to the original color. Krylon 1820 is a close match for cheap paint. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:52pm
| Hmm. Yea I’ll just go into Sherwin tomorrow and ask for Persian Orange in industrial. I wana get a test run on somethin this weekend while I’m off. I’ve done alil sandin. I’m not goin for the complete roll off the assembly line stock look at this time. Im wantin to just get her cleaned up with a fresh coat as she goes about her daily duties on the farm |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:53pm
| Hey thanks for the numbers. PPG680 it is! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:59pm
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PPG 60080 ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 7:24am
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Hello there. Beins ive never herd of them I’m thinkin they ain’t to close Thanks |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 9:37am
| I struck out at Sherwin that ppg60080 wasn’t in the system. Got sw6886 and sw6885 to maul over if I can’t find anything else |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 11:05am
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Found me this in stock at menards on sale 8 bucks a qt! I’ll proably use old caterpillar yellow for my Kelly Front loader. No way I’d use JD yellow 
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Posted By: bhaynes
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 12:32pm
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True Value (if you have one), but Home Depot sells the AC Orange online. Order and ship to your house. What I did (if this helps) is I went to Rust-Oleum's website and looked up the color and then locator. :) Hope this helps. |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 1:49pm
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Chris did you have the paint mixed to Persian Orange or just go by their orange industrial color? Sometimes they can color match if you have a sample. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 5:48pm
PPG is a brand of paint, Sherwin Williams doesn't sell PPG. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
57WD45FarmUse wrote:Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 8:30pm
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57 and folks, as usual dont follow my lead. I am not having good luck with the Sherwin Williams brand, at least not yet. Paint store cant seam to get the formula for the PPG60080. So They tried tinting a small sample of the paint I bought. They made several tries. I though one matched pretty well. They kept going playing with it, I believe ended up at the same spot they were at, which to me look a lot more red. Maybe like PO#2. Any way I will go back one more time and see if they can get it closer. I like what they are saying about the Sherwin Willams paint quality. I just dont have the color yet. I found some of the old TISCO paint in a can and will take that for show and tell. 57, The price is right at $8 if your happy with the results. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: saele
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 3:49pm
| Fleet farm has all 3 Allis colors. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 4:00pm
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I get all my paint from AGCO dealer. Great paint at a good price. They have all 3 colors on the shelf in spray cans or qts. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 4:16pm
I've given up on Sherwin Williams. I took the straw rack hanger plate from one of my All-Crops (the piece has been out of the sun its whole life), and after cleaning it and putting a little rubbing compound on it, looked perfect to me. They scanned it but said they couldn't match the color, as it was "too yellow" and would fade out if they mixed a color to match. I insisted I wanted that shade, so they tried, but kept coming up with PO#2 and another color that was too brown, like the Texas Longhorn's burnt orange. If I need paint in the future, I'm just going to go with PPG.
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 5:44pm
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Creston, Thanks! Might have to go that route? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 7:11pm
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The PPG Omni line acrylic enamel MAE with hardener is mentioned quite often. They do have the formula for PO#1. The timing between the epoxy primer and the topcoat is critical. If the tractor is going to be stored inside, then the Majic paint could work. It is Po#1 shade. I sprayed some test panels and it was easy, levels out. But it took a long time to dry and cure. I think two days later it could trap a gnat. I did not use the hardener. I would say you must use the hardener. There are Youtube videos about using this on tractors. They also have a clearcoat. Maybe that would extend the sun exposure lifetime. Call their tech support, they will pickup the phone. Find out what the clearcoat does for durability. But hey, why not use the AGCO paint, but I don't know anything about it. Sherwin Williams AIC acrylic urethane is too brittle. Store told me everyone is back to their acrylic enamel now. But they can't mix to PO#1 for either. Bahh. I still thing the paint industry are dirty rotten scoundrels.
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Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 6:38am
| Sherwin Williams is 1820 for Persian number one. Looks good but doesn't shine. Fleet Farm "Old 55" is a real close match to Persian number one. Number two is way off. I painted a couple tractors with both types and also a couple with PPG 60080. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 6:46am
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Lon, Thanks for that information. Humm these paint guys say the shine will still blind you in the sun after 10 years! Humm??? Brian C may have it right in his last sentence!:) Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 9:24am
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For those that remember or have NOS painted parts that never saw the light of day: Exactly how bright, shiny, and vibrant were these tractors from the factory? Jared |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 8:18pm
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Jared, The two WD's I have were born before me. The WD45 2 years after. I remember I was old enough Dad felt it was safe for me to drive on the road with the WD and a hay wagon. So the tractor was maybe 10 years old. It was crusty and rusty by that time. I think most were somewhat faded and not to shiny. But I did not see a lot of new ones. I didn't help much. I actually think my faded WD wide front probably is about what they looked like in a couple years? Any way I did get my pumpkin orange paint re-mixed. Haven't shot any yet. FYI the top coat is acrylic enamel as mentioned above. I shot that years ago with no hardener and it held up well. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 8:43pm
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Got my Primer on. Rustolelum implement and farm. I sanded with medium paper before hand. Washed down with soap and water I thinned it some and and my spray gun didn’t have no problems! Hopefully get a coat of paint on tomorrow!    ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |