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Topic: Ball and socket hitch?
Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Subject: Ball and socket hitch?
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2019 at 9:39am
Could somebody explain the ball and socket hitch used with some AC equipment? Been seeing mention of it in relation to roto balers, hay rakes, and all crop combines. Any pics?

Is it absolutely needed in order to use these implements?

Jared



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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2019 at 12:30pm
Only needed if you dont want to convert them . On flat ground I dont see the advantage . Even on uneven ground I would not think it would matter . Have seen several converted to hitch pin and operators have said works fine.

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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2019 at 1:13pm
Here are a few pictures!





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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2019 at 1:37pm
I really like it. Quick, easy attaching. I think it's easier than lining up a clevis hitch.


Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 10:06am
Thanks guys. Is it a standard 1 7/8" or some strange size?
Is this what most of you are using on pull type equipment or like said above, has most allis equipment out there been converted to use a regular pin hitch.

Jared


Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:23am
I have it on my pull type combine and use it. Kind of cool just because it's different.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 2:01pm
Here's an nos one we have


Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 2:19pm
With the Allis round baler you are stopping for each bale, that means a lot of stop and go...with a pin hitch you will be wearing your pin and the hole in the drawbar at least a little faster than normal, so the ball hitch saves your drawbar from needing repair as often.


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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 2:24pm
I've got two of those bar rakes that I use.  One has the original ball hitch with the lock ring,  and the other has an old style 2" ball type trailer coupler.  Either one will couple to the ball on the tractor hitch.


Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 6:48pm
they work well but the flaw is, its hard to keep the nut tight especially if there is any wear to the drawbar hole. it gets pushed back and forth and loosens up. you really need to shim it to fit each drawbar. plus the ones I had were course thread shanks. the pic above looks like fine thread which wuold be an improvement over what I had. overall a good design and much nicer than dumb old clevis hitch flapping around. 


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by Dmpaul89 Dmpaul89 wrote:

they work well but the flaw is, its hard to keep the nut tight especially if there is any wear to the drawbar hole. it gets pushed back and forth and loosens up. you really need to shim it to fit each drawbar. plus the ones I had were course thread shanks. the pic above looks like fine thread which wuold be an improvement over what I had. overall a good design and much nicer than dumb old clevis hitch flapping around. 
I agree, they do tend to work loose if the drawbar hole is egged out any. Mine is a fine thread though, and I do think it works better than coarse thread. 


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 6:39am
OK, I have to ask..
what's the 'magic' for it to latch ?
The 'lever' does 'something' similar to a trailer 'ball coupler' ??
curious...
Jay


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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 7:46am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

OK, I have to ask..
what's the 'magic' for it to latch ?
The 'lever' does 'something' similar to a trailer 'ball coupler' ??
curious...
Jay

under the lever is a pin. When you push the lever down the pin drops in to one of the notches in the locking ring. This prevents the locking ring from rotating and releasing the implement.

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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis


Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 9:41am
Thanks for the info on this. I think my draw bar would be too egged out to use one, lol.



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