301 questions?
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Topic: 301 questions?
Posted By: Allisman01
Subject: 301 questions?
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 6:23pm
Can anyone give me the distance from the top of the piston to the center of the wrist pin on a 301? Also anyone ever put different rods in a 301? Like ones out of a big block Chevy? Thanks guys!
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 9:40pm
Posted By: Allisman01
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:20am
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Diesel. Goal is about 200+ horsepower and possibly 100lbs boost at max
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 11:34am
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100 lbs of boost if the engine is done correctly should yield over 1,000 HP and closer to 1200 HP with twin turbos. Why do you want to use Chevrolet conn rods ??
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Posted By: Allisman01
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 2:00pm
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Well what would be cheeper? New pistons or hardened rods? I'm just throwing around ideas because I know the 301 rods are week until there heat treated
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Posted By: bsallis180
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 2:42pm
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Rods for sure. I have a set I’ll sale That are hardened
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 4:08pm
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200 HP doesn't need hardened rods.
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Posted By: Allisman01
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 8:34pm
So DrAllis, what do you think I need done to get 200hp? Just out of curiosity? Max RPM 3000. Figured 7580 injecor tips have Ed Gunther work the pump but what else?
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 8:39am
S200 turbo, my modified pump and injectors can get you well north of 200hp. I've got one in here now getting the same treatment.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: bsallis180
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 8:58am
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Might have our .450 pump for sale.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 12:08pm
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I haven't done a 200 HP 190XT in about 35 years. When I did, it would have been 7080/7580 injector assemblies, turn the leaf spring clear down inside the injection pump, turn up the high idle and add on an Alcohol/water injection system. Turbo had to be an Air-research TO4 or TO4B. This tractor would go right back to the field after swapping injector assemblies and turning down the high idle. In later years, we used a dedicated injection pump that had more fuel yet. This went on for about 10+ years and then he built a dedicated pulling tractor with twin turbos. I'm trying to figure out if you are building a dedicated puller or not????
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Posted By: Allisman01
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 3:03pm
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When the time comes I’ll be getting ahold of you ed! DrAllis it will probably be 90% puller. It may do very light tasks around the house. A local truck puller thinks I could spool a s400 with a super tight exhaust side. I kinda think he’s full of BS but it had me curious?
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 5:29pm
He is full of BS! I've seen more oversized turbos on tractors that run like crap, and people are very disappointed. Now, you set up a 301 with twin chargers, and a massively ported head, custom ground cam, and a 700cc P pump, yea, the S400 would work as the big turbo in a compound setup.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 6:19pm
You have to drive those big turbos with something, air,fuel, heat, or the turbo restricts the inco ming air.
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2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50
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