190 X/T
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Topic: 190 X/T
Posted By: Kurzy
Subject: 190 X/T
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 6:59am
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Howdy, Never had one so whats the good and not so good on this tractor? Cab and bare back. Thanks Kurzy
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 7:44am
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What year is it? Gas or Diesel? ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 7:49am
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Howdy Charlie175, Fellow selling for a neighbor so no idea on year. X/T came in gas also? Its a diesel. Thanks Kurzy
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Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 8:09am
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Howdy, Its a bar grill so must be a 66 or 67. Thanks
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 9:56am
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They came in non-turbo versions also, so beware even if it says XT Rough timeline (Correct me if I am wrong) 64-65 were the same. 66 had factory updates for shifting (Something else?) 68 had larger axles, fender, other minor updates (Series II) 69 series III had Rear end updates to beef it up. Depends on how they were used, if pulled/used hard (Overweight) the rear ends had issues on the early years. Cavitation can be a issue on all years. Gears can be a problem if abused Slow travel speed. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 9:57am
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Yes the XT came in gas version also with the larger 301 gas motor. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 1:04pm
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Any 190 or 190XT built from 1966 and on had larger axles and most of the earlier XT's had either larger axles installed or harder axles installed through an Allis Chalmers update program. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 1:51pm
| I have a gas 1966 cab 190 it has great power steering the seat and controls are comfortable and well layer out. They run very smooth and mine is quiet. The cab Is old technology,No AC and my heater has been removed. I do pull the pin and remove the lower door in the summer and leave in the shed. With the windows open and the door removed it pretty comfortable in the summer.The power director shifts easily berween two speeds. You must clutch to get any other gears. A power shift is nicer. I have the manual PTO so must use the clutch fo PTO work and I only have the 540 PTO. Hyd PTO and 540/1000 PTOs were an option. The hydraulics seam to work the same as other tractors mine has Pioneer couplers so I connect to other farm equipment without any problems. The three point works as well as any other. I have borrowed implements from the farm. |
Posted By: DaveWisc.
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 1:58pm
| Be carful they had trouble with the rest end . I had the series 3 and broke the ring gear and pinion plowing . It was my main tractor so it did a lot of work too.O rings leaked in the bottom of sleeves so overhaul job too. Good tractor lots of power and nice to run. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2019 at 9:42pm
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Like any other tractor no matter the brand it depends on how they were used and treated. Especially the series II and III, if they were used as intended by the factory few problems occurred with the rear ends. As Charlie stated, problems occurred when tires were loaded, heavy weights also hung, and pulling equipment far bigger than they we’re intended to pull. In most cases they would pull it just fine but anytime you continue to do so, problems from the extra stress took its toll. Charlie and I both have series II 190XT’s, neither jump out of gear, and are strong tractors. Thankfully, previous owners apparently didn’t abuse the transmission by shifting the main gears on the go which was a weakness in the XT. Series III was the best XT, it received the heavier 4 pinion rear end which solved a lot of the earlier problems. Drive it, put it in each gear, make sure the power director shifts smooth but firm. If possible, put a load behind it and go down a steep hill if you have one to see if it pops out of gear when you pull the throttle back. 3rd gear was the most usual gear to pop out but try all four. Great news if it doesn’t jump out of gear, expensive to fix if it does. They are a great tractor IMO, as long as they haven’t been abused. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 5:42am
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In my opinion the 190XT was built for high speed farming, like Case advertised once in some of their literature in the 70's, and the Allis Crop Hustler series stressed. Meaning pulling a smaller implement faster and in the end you're more efficient and easier on your tractor and probably do more acres in a day. So find a plow or disk traditionally pulled by a 75 hp tractor in your soil and hook the 190XT to it and pull it faster or throttled back. I wouldn't pull a disk much faster than 4 or 4-1/4 mph so throttle back. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 8:13am
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I also think the 190/190XT got a bad reputation because of owner/operator abuse.Most tractors I see in their manuals were sold to have fluid in the tires and a set of wheel weights or maybe two.Some manuals state if the tractor was loaded over a certain weight the warranty was void.Go and put a set of duals and a lot of extra weight,turn the injection pump up etc and then have drive line problems.Who is to blame? Not the tractor its being abused.Turning a tractor designed to have a working weight say of 10,000 lbs and 100 HP and turning it into a 15,000 lb tractor and 130 HP with dual wheels is about guaranteed to have issues with the rear/trans. |
Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:21am
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Howdy, Fellows a big thank you. I be looking for a few of these problems when I go to see this tractor. Its got the big tires on rear that book says is for rough terrain, rear sectional weights and front slabs. Straight metal and pre air cleaner with pipe that goes to exhaust stack. Sure looks tough with them big ,wide tires on! Thanks Kurzy
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:17pm
Was this the one that was on Craigslist north of Bozeman last year? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Kurzy wrote:Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 9:36pm
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Surely not saying dual wheels with the insides loaded is a sin, as there are certain soils that demand the extra traction. Factory pictures show XT’s pulling 20’ disks with this set up. Another picture with just singles at the rear. Mine has the full factory front weights, and loaded rears, no duals. As for the 20’ AC disc, I will find out in the spring how she handles it. Charlie and I are refurbishing one now that we bought earlier last year. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 10:00pm
| maybe you can tell the year by the serial number. |
Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2019 at 7:44am
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Howdy. Eldon, no not north of Bozeman. Maybe this tractor is moving around? Harold, soon as I get to see this tractor I'll have the year down pack. Fellow selling for a neighbor and cant get back there to get serial number. Thanks Kurzy
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