Anybody know anything about Rough Water boats?
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Topic: Anybody know anything about Rough Water boats?
Posted By: thendrix
Subject: Anybody know anything about Rough Water boats?
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 5:09pm
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A guy offered to trade me a 1989 Rough Water center console boat on a deal where I'm asking $1400 on my end. I was looking for info on Rough Water boats and I'm not finding much. Was Rough Water an off brand of another manufacturer? The boat has an Evinrude 120, trolling motor, depth finder, and live well. Says his fishing partner passed away and he has no more interest in fishing. My plan is to flip it. A friend that does a good bit of fishing says if the transom and floor are solid then it's probably about a $2000 boat. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 5:24pm
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I'd get your 'friend' to buy it !! Let him make the '$600'. I've been told of 'deals' like that..some are still sitting here or in scrapyard. Kinda hard to sell a boat+ motor without a trailer....Can you test the engine and stuff? Test drive it for say 1/2hr if you still want it. ANYTHING labelled 'b-o-a-t' is expensive to fix. Yeah, I'm cynical.......getting old too ! heck, who knows maybe,jes maybe your luck will be better than mine.... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 5:37pm
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The trailer is included. Meant to mention that part. He says it runs good. I'm planning to hear it run long enough to know it runs. There's nowhere around here that has water in it that I have time to get to at the moment. I'm guessing that as long as the batteries are charged I can check the trolling motor and the depth finder as well. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 6:33pm
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Sounds like it might be an offshoot of a Boston Whaler but the only thing I know about boats is that they are a hole in the water that you throw money into. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 7:59pm
$ounds like an extra heavy duty real deep hole in the water...
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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 9:29pm
| Couple of friends bought a big river boat that they thought was a good deal and I went on the first trip with them. After going out and fishing with them, when we got back to load up, I said you boys have a motor problem. Bad. After spending nine thousand dollars for a new Mercury motor, the resultant problems with it right out of the box and the warranty not being honored it runs real good. I guess you could say they finally got the pit filled up. |
Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 9:39pm
| I had a 120 Evinrude. A 1984 model, Big block motor, very heavy, loves gas. I'd rather have a 115. 100 lbs. lighter and about the same power. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 10:17pm
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The happiest two days of your life with a boat. The day you buy it. The day you sell it. You didn't mention what the boat is made of and the length. If it's a big water boat, the beam would be important too. 89 is an old boat. If it's been maintained every year then it might be okay. I wouldn't buy a boat unless it has a mercury engine. I see some of the newer foreign engines and they seem to be a 50 50 shot on reliability. Usually if a boat has two, one has something wrong with it. Pass! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 11:37pm
| I have 3 boats, love all of them. #1. a 22 ft deck boat, center console, seating on both sides and a day bed in front (queen size) 120 HP 4 cyl Mercury in line inboard engine, has a lot of goodies, can use the center area for a dance floor. it's a 1974 Texas Plastics brand. #2. 14 ft runabout Lund brand aluminum 5 person seating with a Johnson outboard, (dads old boat), #3. a 19 ft aluminum canoe, didn't get to take any of them out last year, but hopefully will this coming year! |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 12:35pm
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What I have found on boats is-older boats really don't seem to have much value. You tend to be buying the motor. Also is it a type of boat that can and is used in your area? Jon boats and the smaller v-hulls in our area never really chance much but older bigger boats are just that-an old bigger boat. Also I think it is an off brand boat no longer in production. Tell him to sell it and put the money toward's what you are selling. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 1:33pm
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https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Roughwater" rel="nofollow - https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Roughwater
Rough Water may not be the brand but a type of boat. I see Rough Water used a lot in descriptions. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 2:22pm
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It's a 17'. ROUGH WATER is what it says on the side. Best I can tell it looks like a center console v hull boat. Around here we have several reservoirs so I'd say it's definitely something you could use here. If I had a better relationship with Photobucket I'd post a couple of pictures ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 3:22pm
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WAS at one time a Proud boat Owner, and sold off as I could not fill the open hole in the water with money any further. Rough Water boats I have not dealt with, Four Winns, Sea Ray, a few others I have. My boating experiences are Waters of MO, rivers and Lake Ozark primarily, did a little Ocean running in CA when lived out there. Here the Small boats(Less than 24') do NOT come out on weekends on our rivers or lakes as just cannot compete for surface time. My smallest was a 21' 1988 Four Winns Sundowner cuddy, slow and heavy, largest a 28.5' 280 Four Winns open bow 9'6" beam and steady as a rock in rough water of Lake Ozark in high traffic. Older Brother did the tail dragger series Formula Boats his longest 41' and three engines, 180-300 gallon gas a weekend and NOT for me. He took it to CA when moved there and sold it there as a small runabout to coastal waters. Do know for a fact three major boat builders use Lake Ozark to test out hulls for stability as is the Worst riding water one can find in the US. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 4:23pm
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BOAT= bust out another thousand! ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 4:29pm
| I would take rough water to mean more of an offshore boat capable of handling rougher water. Now that I've thought about it, it even makes sense. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 5:31pm
| Tyler...if it's made of metal, it could be one like they use in Alaska, those boats used go for about $35,000. they are no bigger than my boats |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 6:04pm
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I would call any local marine repair shops in your area and see if they know anything about them. Sometimes if it is a known brand in that area it would be easier to sell. Any info I find on that name lists larger and more spendy boats. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 6:19pm
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Just thought of something. Could ROUGH WATER be the model of the boat and not the manufacturer? ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 6:21pm
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Run! there is no value there. the engine never was a great engine and the boat doesn't show up in the NADA list of over 1800 boat manufacturers in the U.S. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 8:21am
| try roughwater.com |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 8:42am
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http://www.myboatpro.com/Boat_Vin_Check.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.myboatpro.com/Boat_Vin_Check.htm There should be an ID tag on the boat. It may tell you if that is a brand of boat. I don't know if this link will be of any help but maybe? ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 4:14pm
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Found out the brand is contender ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 4:16pm
Seems like most of the boats they sold were 30-40 ft cabin cruisers... Went out of business about the time yours was built.. Maybe a "new" company bought the small boats / name .... maybe it was the last of the original company.. Looks like built overseas.https://www.facebook.com/Roughwater-33-Aries-32-Weatherly-32-1555651488090177/?hc_ref=ARTdjb-0FJ4DWejThbgEwLUo8xUtcJmheMn-a8JRPTFGzaSp5zuNjaOsnqwJ6yx1PXc&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDI7DsMGoDUk2aYK5l8zb1Os-Zpz3zHHFuXvMwlC64NMVbKkce6xsuoKWSOmpqrBKadF34U-j0LYG6ksLGRBJRfvW-4Y-iYiydZ-VUoFmJ38rB0VkPmAn7R-2qt246uFxBxbphJLyE01QZYStVKDxM7bb-XEMDENqaPYWoC5vzUBsIlLZqjF-7QBLHfpi6BXh8COMReG8OwVDjpO95EWbcyUgGeRxVTIn735u1z2hfRCzGRI26u1ORew4aUIFxK4q-fY7pL2kkbe_0fGrtowr0xU3KQrt7QYXNuTRETEXP5136FG4K3Z4RBLeMy4GGoKAJz7GRRt3Uvkz8j4pW08kl1&__tn__=kC-R" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1555676438087682&id=1555651488090177&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDI7DsMGoDUk2aYK5l8zb1Os-Zpz3zHHFuXvMwlC64NMVbKkce6xsuoKWSOmpqrBKadF34U-j0LYG6ksLGRBJRfvW-4Y-iYiydZ-VUoFmJ38rB0VkPmAn7R-2qt246uFxBxbphJLyE01QZYStVKDxM7bb-XEMDENqaPYWoC5vzUBsIlLZqjF-7QBLHfpi6BXh8COMReG8OwVDjpO95EWbcyUgGeRxVTIn735u1z2hfRCzGRI26u1ORew4aUIFxK4q-fY7pL2kkbe_0fGrtowr0xU3KQrt7QYXNuTRETEXP5136FG4K3Z4RBLeMy4GGoKAJz7GRRt3Uvkz8j4pW08kl1&__tn__=-R" rel="nofollow - - January 20, 2016 ยท https://www.facebook.com/Roughwater-33-Aries-32-Weatherly-32-1555651488090177/#" rel="nofollow -Roughwater Boats had been building wooden boats when Hal Paris took over and began building boats with fibreglass using the C.C. Chen Boatyard in Taiwan. Following the Aries design by Thomas Gilmer the boatyard produced a number of boats that were being marketed in the USA as the the Aries 32, the Roughwater 33 and the Weatherly 32. The Aries 32 line was producing boats as early as 1974 and were imported by Sausalito Yacht Sales. The Roughwater 33 began in 1975 and were importing through Snake River Wooden Boats Inc.. Both of these were imported into the 1980's. Between 1982 and 1984 the same boats were being imported by Milan Boats Inc. and marketed as the Weatherly 32. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 6:02pm
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OK, Being that the brand name is Contender that does change things a bit. Take a hammer and tap on the transom around the engine. A THUD sound is a rotton transom. a sharper sound is what you are listening for. Look around the motor well corners for cracks. Make sure you do a SPARK & COMPRESSION TEST on all cylinders and you need to hear it run & see it shift. make sure the propshaft is not bent. If it passes those tests it may be worth messing with. Good Luck, John. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 8:13pm
| The boats on that facebook page, I clicked roughwater 33, are full keel blue water boats capable of taking your little buns anywhere in the world. Don't be in a hurry to walk away from it without checking the possibilities first. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 12:18pm
------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 1:39pm
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Is that Shameless? ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 8:23pm
| With that barrel motor you could start thinking about a reverse Niagara Falls thing. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 4:46am
You want a "Rough Water" boat,,,,,,,,,, join the Navy!!  Couldn't resist that!!  I joined the Navy to see the world and I found out the world is flat and covered with water...  STAY AWAY from that one!! My uncle had one, he bought it one day, took it out twice. The transom came apart on the second trip and it sunk. He'd always get himself into those (old man with nothing better to do) scrapes.... It was always going to be a deal,,,,,,,,,,and I guess it was for all the guys who stole his money... Rough water boats were designed to ride high in the water. Why I don't know nor can I conceive of a good reason. Anyway, the rock back and forth a lot. Ever been sea sick?? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 9:23pm
| It may have something to do with being up there looking down at the waves instead of being down there looking up at them. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 11:06pm
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Contender hulls aren't weak by any measure. They're generally a Deep V design with slight taper towards rear, hard chines. Basically, they took the offshore racing hull designs, fitted them with center consoles and outboard brackets, and made them into fishing platforms that were faster, and more maneuverable than say... a Bertram or Cheoy Lee. This boat design is popular for coastal island fishing... a little deep for fishing shallow-water flats, but they'll get in there in a high tide, and with outboard power, get out of there without damage. Typically, hulls with rotten transoms are that way, because someone installed the outboard or inboard-outboard incorrectly- they drilled holes to mount the transom clamp or I/O gimbal housing, and did NOT coat the bare transom wood with epoxy or seal the holes form both ends. If this Contender has a transom bracket, it's probably a factory-installed bracket, and the motor is affixed to the transom bracket, rather than the transom... so there's little concern that the hull's transom sandwich has been saturated. As others mentioned, the engine is a little on the heavy side for it's power rating, but it's probably appropriately sized for the hull. If it's early enough to be a 'true' premix two-stroke, it will be less maintenance-intensive than an oil-injected unit of later vintage. Evinrude/Johnson (OMC) was sold off to Bombardier some years ago as a result of US EPA emissions policy banning the manufacture of certain types of engines... by selling it off to a Canadian company, it was partially exempted (another dumb government policy gone wrong)... but they're somewhat orphaned as a result. Aftermarket parts support still exists for some of it... but fortunately, it's an outboard- you can unbolt an engine, bolt another on in about an hour. Get more info on the hull and engine, get pictures... and look at the local market- they may be offering you a good deal. My name is Dave, and I own six boats... no... seven... most of them have MerCruiser I/O power... but I've had Evinrude, Johnson, Mercury... Elgin... Clinton... worked on and used Scott-Atwater, Chrysler... yeah, I've got a Mercury 2-stroke inline six 'tower of power' on a stand in the barn... alongside an Evinrude 4-cyl electric-shift... and I used to have a Mark 75H that fortunately, I never had a hull worthy of... If the boat they're offering has good up-to-date paperwork, and the transom is sound... it'd be worth considering... especially if the trailer is roadworthy.
------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 11:08pm
Ted... I can prove to you that the world IS NOT FLAT: If it was... CATS would have knocked EVERYTHING OFF IT BY NOW!!! ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Ted J wrote:Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 11:31pm
| All ya gotta worry about is Mermaids luring you into the rocks, well that and the Dragons. Other than that just think buoyant and let er rip. Rotted boards float just as well as solid ones so never mind your transom and bottom, ya can't see em anyways under water. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2018 at 8:42am
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I've done some research on the local market and most 17' center consoles are 5k to 6k but none of them are as old as this one. I haven't heard back from the owner in several days so I'm guessing he's changed his mind. Thanks for the info fellas ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |