I remember back in the day
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Topic: I remember back in the day
Posted By: Don(MO)
Subject: I remember back in the day
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:13am
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I remember back in the day we used to turn the front wheels around backwards to keep the mud from plugging the front end and helped keep the front of the tractor up in mud or snow, I was thinking we might be the only one's that did this. Not the best shot of one but it's the only one I found.  ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
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Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:27am
| I remember my dad telling me the same thing about turning the front wheels wider to keep from filling up with mud. |
Posted By: Roger (NE)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:28am
| Did that on a WD that we used on the feed Wagon back in the 70's. Worked well! |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:54am
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I remember putting the canvas heat houser on Dad's WD. We thought that was great but when Dad hired the neighbor to blow out the driveway once with a 4430 and cab well, we never thought a Deere of any kind was great but the cab sure looked warm. Dad's WD had a narrow front with loader too but we never reversed the wheels. I remember one of my uncles did that though. Dad moved the loader to his D17 eventually where it still is today. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:12am
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My WC has mud scrapers on the narrow front, did they not work, or was it an option? ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:07am
| I turned them around on Dad's tractor one winter, when I came home freom school, they were back they was they were, and boy was he mad! |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:18am
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
JoeM(GA) wrote:Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 10:06am
| We always turned them around on the tractor we fed with till Dad bought the 17 with the wide front |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 10:15am
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We always had a problem with narrow front tractors in deep snow. We took one wheel off. Not the best solution but helped. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 3:10pm
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Does the mud/snow just ball up in between the wheels and keep them from turning? Lots of wide front tractors in our area.
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Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 4:13pm
| Yes Creston they will ball up on the narrow front tractors. Turn the wheels around and it helps a lot but if you don’t have power steering it steers harder. Also you want to hang on to the steering wheel as it will spin if you hit a hole just right. My Dad broke his wrist when a WD done this, the steering knob got him |
Posted By: caledonian
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 5:30pm
| And heaven forbid if you let the mud freeze between the tires on a narrow front. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:17pm
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:17pm
We had that happen just one time, had to remove one wheel and break out the frozen mud, not a fun job with Dad watching us the next day cleaning the mess up after telling us boys to clean out the mud before it was parked the barn that night. To this day I will clean the wheels out in cold temp's. lmao ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 8:41pm
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We parked the NF tractors in the Winter for the most part and used the WF tractors. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 8:30am
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As far as I know dad never turned it around and in fact I never knew it could be done. I learn something every day.🙂 ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 11:01am
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Don, Folks, I never seen ours turned around on either of the narrow front end WD's in the family. Probably because a wide front was available most of the time when the ground was sticky or snowy. I do remember getting warned about the narrow front wheels catching, spinning the steering wheel and hurting you! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: caledonian
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 11:14am
| Yep |
Posted By: TOM (NE)
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 1:53pm
| Back in the day, Dad did that with our WD during the winter for moving snow with the loader. I also remember once Dad front wheel froze solid with mud with the mounted cornpicker. He was not happy! |
Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 2:28pm
| It's been a long time but if I remember correctly you couldn't reverse them under a corn picker snout so if you packed that full of mud you had some real fun in taking the snout off to dig the mud out. We did reverse them on a manure loader tractor and that helped keep the wheels turning. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 11:00pm
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Just got to be careful driving a NF in the pasture like that. One frozen meadow muffin can rip the wheel out of your hands ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Roger (NE)
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 8:18am
| We first had scrapers on the WD we used on the mounted picker. That was also the tractor that had the number 3 mower on in the summer. And yes, if no power steering, you had to hang on if the front wheels were reversed. Fortunately the WD we used on the feed Wagon during the winter months was the one that was our cultivator tractor in the summer and we had installed Char-Lynn power steering on it. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 5:53pm
| I was too small to do that on dads WD45, but I do remember grandpa's C that way. I don't ever remember those wheels set in. I do know it was a real pain in the but to drive down the road. In 1959 we got the D17 with a new corn picker and a wide front to put on after the corn was picked. We were picking tall corn with that set up. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 7:02pm
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Maybe a little off topic.....but we learned the hard way to clean the manure spreaders out completely in cold weather. On pto spreaders you could break the drag chain. If we were hauling slop, we would have to get in with a crowbar and place some sticks underneath each slat to keep them from freezing down and breaking the chain.We had 800 head of cattle for a time and hauled pretty often. Oh, the memories!!! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: D17Milo
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 8:10am
I remember Dad having a scraper on at least onr of his tractors. Shamless's comment about his Dad reminded me of the time I took the muffler off of Dad's 60 John Deere and put a straight pipe on it. VERY shortly afterwards I was told to take that blankety blank thing off and put the muffler back on. It didn't take long.
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Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 9:20am
| I've got scrapers on my narrow front WD-45. I'll have to get some pictures the next time I'm out in the shed. |