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Topic: How much lead in a car battery?
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: How much lead in a car battery?
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 5:12pm
I need near 50 lbs of lead. Just curious how much is in a car battery. I’ve never opened one up. Also looking for other sources.



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Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 5:23pm
Thad, yer gonna find a lead alloy. It's lead mixed with somethin else

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Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 5:31pm
Thad, yer gonna need to find an Odyssey battery dealer. Them batteries are supposed to be 99% lead. I got a couple of em in my motorhome an they weigh in at 80 pounds a piece. I can let you know in about 15 years when I need to replace em. 

I also been making a weight for my pump truck. Been melting them wheel weights down fer about 5 years. Think I got about 10 pounds of lead But I been noticing lately that they must be makin em outa somethng else cause they don't melt like they used to


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 6:25pm
Years ago I was given a whole bunch of nice clean lead jars. I don’t know what they were fior but I was melting those down to make race car weights. I sold all the weights with the car.
I wondered where I might get a bunch of wheel weights?


Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 7:42pm
Any roofing companies around? Some older houses had lead flashing. 

When my dad roofed years ago he had a pile and I took some to school to melt down for shop class when we were in the casting unit. First few batches I brought in were okay. Then had a batch that was folded over and it had some tar in it, stunk the whole school up, school principal was not happy and was told never to bring anymore in. 


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 8:00pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR4sEmY-54" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR4sEmY-54

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Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 8:21pm
When I was young and worked in a Gulf service station I use to melt wheel weights down and make fishing weights. Used a small ladle and bought molds for the weights. Easy to do as all trash comes to top when you melt lead


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 8:34pm
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR4sEmY-54" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR4sEmY-54

Looks like a pain in the tail. I had no idea they would be so dirty.


Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 10:03pm
Some sail boats have a lead keel

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 10:22pm
I would stop by Wal Mart TIre Center or local TIre Store and see if you could buy a bucket of USED wheel weights.... scrap lead is approx. $1. pound.

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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 10:24pm
Wheel weights now have a hardner added to the lead. You might find an old plumbing shop that still has some laying on a shelf in the back room.


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 10:26pm
Find a Plumber who does remodeling. I have a pile of lead drain pipes. At least 3 or 4 hundred pounds of the stuff. Come and get it.
Always figured I would stock pile it to supply the revolution when we will need it to make bullets. Keep waiting for it to happen but it never does, wonder if it ever will.

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 1:40am
Thad....I knows where Les's motorhome is....brings sum beer and a bolt cutters!


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 5:40am
Originally posted by Pat the Plumber CIL Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:

Find a Plumber who does remodeling. I have a pile of lead drain pipes. At least 3 or 4 hundred pounds of the stuff. Come and get it.
Always figured I would stock pile it to supply the revolution when we will need it to make bullets. Keep waiting for it to happen but it never does, wonder if it ever will.

I’ve got a neighbor who’s a retired plumber. I’ll be visiting him soon.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 5:45am
Will the wheel weights still melt down? I have dimensions for a mold that should be 7 lbs when full of lead. I then need to fill 4” square tube 9” deep. I may fill the tube with scrap or find 4” solid. The 7 lb weight needs to be fairly precise on weight.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 5:55am
They use Antimony or tin as a additive to bind lead and displace the quantity of lead in materials normally found to be just lead.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 6:09am
dangnabit, wish you were closer. I got old style plumber's lead here along with white gas(?) burner and ladle along with a few bars of  body lead ( the original Bondo ).
Seems too good to just scrap,keep thinking someone needs them but man I keep 'reorgnizing' here...tired of that.
I assume lead as you are making 'something' not just a 'weight'?
Jay


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 6:58am
Both pieces are just a weight. The 7 pounder needs to be a precise 7 pounds. That’s why specific dimensions for the mold. Now I wonder if it must be pure lead to make the weight?


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 7:33am
Making a wide Grandfathers clock?


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 8:07am
so ,can it be made out of another metal ? Tungsten is 50% heavier...
or is there a physical limit for dimensions ?
just trying to think of options...


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Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 9:11am
Originally posted by Walker Walker wrote:

Making a wide Grandfathers clock?

Balance weight on a blacksmith power hammer.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 9:13am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

so ,can it be made out of another metal ? Tungsten is 50% heavier...
or is there a physical limit for dimensions ?
just trying to think of options...

I need to check into that. I know the weight matters and the location point is exact.


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 10:32am
Talk to a sports team coach.  They will help you give you all you need.
Haven't you heard the coach say, "Get the lead out". 



Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 10:36am
I believe old windows used lead weights in the wall.  I have a couple here and a couple of those are probably 7#.  Even if they ain't lead they are not that large and have a hole molded into one end.  You could just hang them on a wire or cable.  Look for old abandoned houses.


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 11:20am
Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

I believe old windows used lead weights in the wall.  I have a couple here and a couple of those are probably 7#.  Even if they ain't lead they are not that large and have a hole molded into one end.  You could just hang them on a wire or cable.  Look for old abandoned houses.

I have lots of old cast iron window weights. I’ve heard of lead and brass window weights but haven’t found any yet. I’ll be looking.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 11:21am
Originally posted by Clay Clay wrote:

Talk to a sports team coach.  They will help you give you all you need.
Haven't you heard the coach say, "Get the lead out". 


The only sports team we got is the Razorbacks. I’ve heard tell they ain’t got enough lead in their pencils as it is now.😁


Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 2:15pm
Thad,
Git you some scuba gear, invite ole Shameless and Dessert Joe (intentional spelling) and go dive for lost fishin lures over there in Beaver lake.  The way I fish, you'll have 50# quick and lots of left over hooks you can sell.


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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 3:37pm
If I remember right I got about a pop can full out of 2 mc and one or two car batts. with a plumbers torch a long long time ago. Cut the top out of the can and it makes a good mold I did learn that much from it.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by Scott B Scott B wrote:


Thad,
Git you some scuba gear, invite ole Shameless and Dessert Joe (intentional spelling) and go dive for lost fishin lures over there in Beaver lake.  The way I fish, you'll have 50# quick and lots of left over hooks you can sell.

That’s a good idea cept I don’t want to see ole Shameless swimin. I’d have trouble sleeping if I thought he was that close to here.


Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 10:03pm
scuba weight belts are made to hold lead weights
and they make pellets put in bags to use in pockets.

fishing weights, junk sailboat, medical transport jugs

go to a shooting range and sift behind the targets





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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by NomoreJohnDeere NomoreJohnDeere wrote:

go to a shooting range and sift behind the targets
Use to go out to the rifle range when I was a kid and sift for the lead.  NONE of the ranges around here will allow you to do that anymore.

Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

They use Antimony or tin as a additive to bind lead and displace the quantity of lead in materials normally found to be just lead.
Dave is correct.  The tin makes the lead harder.  Thus the reason why all wheel weights are so brittle now.  They used to be such nice soft lead......

I still mold bullets and fishing lures.  I'll take all the lead anybody wants to give me!  Just bring it to Hutch or Union Grove next year and I'll even buy you a beer!! Wink


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2018 at 9:38pm
o-k...Thad...inquiry minds wanna know (really only Ted does) what you need all the lead fer?


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 5:07am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

o-k...Thad...inquiry minds wanna know (really only Ted does) what you need all the lead fer?

I’m byilding a machine. It’s for a balance weight and tup weight.👍


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 5:29am
https://youtu.be/KIGGw4yuO-8" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/KIGGw4yuO-8


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 7:17am
ohhhhh….a whammy hammer!


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 7:43am
 UMmmmm,,,why not just buy thinner metal,,,?

   (Sorry,,Just couldn't help myself)  LOL


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 9:25am
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


 UMmmmm,,,why not just buy thinner metal,,,?

   (Sorry,,Just couldn't help myself)  LOL

Why you you you silly rascal. I’ve already got some free by thick metal so I’m gonna build a $3000 hammer to make free thick metal thin metal. I learned all that frugality right here with you thrifty fellers.👍


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2018 at 8:51pm
WOO somebody got his poking stick really sharp.LOL


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 2:12pm
REALLY sharp!!  He's makin good use of that.


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 5:38pm
We've all poked him plenty and his vaykay is getting closer.

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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 6:15pm
Get ballpeen hammer and hang a cement block on your elbow.



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