Newbie From NC
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Topic: Newbie From NC
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Subject: Newbie From NC
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 8:41am
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Hey y’all! Think I’m in the right spot now.Anyway,not sure if there’s a place here for intros but I’ll start here after doing searching and lurking here for a little bit on some unstyled WC info a while back.And too a friend of my dads (Curtis Mabe’s) ‘Mystery D18’ popped up here so I figured it was time to join up and say hey.I’m only on one other forum which is Gretsch (guitar) Pages..another Orange love/habit and here seems to be a fairly simple layout as well.My love of AC goes back as far I can remember growing up on our NC tobacco now hay farm as my grandfather bought his third new AC on my dad’s BD,Jan1 1953...a CA tricycle that he’s still trying to buy back from an older gentlemen my grandfather sold it to with hopes of getting it back one day.Anyway,I enjoy reading the threads here and it’s always fun learning more about the Persian Orange. Michael |
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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 8:54am
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MD you have come to the right place to get 'messed up' with orange... questions can be asked here about tractors or anything orange. Not always a straight answer given but a good one to help move forward with our addiction to machinery and keeping it running, if possible. welcome ------------- Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:10am
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Thankya sir,I appreciate it!! ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:11am
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Welcome. and good luck getting your family tractor returned to the fold. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:27am
Thanks John and yeah either my dad or myself will go by our neighbors farm at least a couple times a year and ask if he’s ready to sell it back.....maybe one day. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
john(MI) wrote:Posted By: bikley
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:31am
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Welcome to the form always great to see new people join |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:33am
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Welcome and great to have younger folks interested in Allis. I'll let you figure out how I knew. Lotsa good people here. Good luck with renewing your relationship with your AC history. ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 10:16am
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Thanks y’all ...definitely some good info here. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 6:48pm
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You mentioned the name Mabe,do you know Tim Mabe? |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 7:11pm
Curtis Mabe..big time AC collector here in NC.His farm is about 18 mi south of ours off I95.The story of his mysterious D18 is in the latest issue of Old Allis News and he had it at GOTO in Illinois this past summer.Anyway my father,Curtis and Bobby Vause of Vause Equipment Co keep in the same company and are always on the next big hunt. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 7:27pm
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Hey Gary I know a Tim Mabe from Walnut Cove is that the one you are referring to? MDWilliams welcome to the forum. I am in Germanton NC north of Winston-Salem |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 7:42pm
Tim I know lives in Troy has a bunch of old AC tractors.see he had some for sale in the Ag Review.
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Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 8:14pm
Ok I’m with ya now! I’ve never met him but years ago my grandfather and dad went to see him a few times for some planter parts.I’d completely forgot about Tim. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 10:24pm
| Welcome to the forum. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 10:38pm
Thanks Mike,appreciate it...very cool here. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 11:27pm
welcome; theres a lot of helpers on hear for help on tractors an tools.if needed. enjoy 
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 2:43am
| welcome to our little Heaven! the folks on here are a wealth of information on lots of things, even other things besides orange tractors! |
Posted By: bakwoodsfarm
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 6:23pm
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Welcome from the big city of Woodleaf, NC |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 6:36pm
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Hey thanks y’all,I really appreciate the welcoming.😬 ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 6:39pm
Sweet! Another Caroliner...we blow right by Woodleaf on the way to our usual July 4,no-go-to-the-beach-getaway in Boone/Beech Mountain...back roads all the way. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 8:03pm
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Welcome, do you travel US321 or US421 to Boone? I'm 1 mi off 321 in Lenoir. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 8:23pm
321 all the way from your place.We take 24/27 to 64 and go through Statesville to Lenoir then 321 all the way.Always nicer than taking I40 and always may see a tractor or several beside the road for sale. Actually my Dad bought his WF from a elderly woman whose husband had passed away several years ago in Lenoir.Our farm is right off I95 right outside Fayetteville/Ft Bragg so I’m sort of central/eastern NC. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: KerryM
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 9:07pm
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Hey Michael. Welcome! if you're on the Gretsch forum, that means you bring new blood here. Not that I am, my daughter dates a guy in a band. Amazing what you pick up on. Anyway, lots of great people and information here. Take advantage of it. Good luck! ------------- 1950 C, 1952 CA, 1961 D17 (Dads last tractor) 1944 Farmall B, 1947 Farmall B, Bobcat 610 |
Posted By: Darrell G (MN)
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 9:17pm
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Welcome to the best site I have ever been connected to. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 9:43pm
Thanks,I’ve been reading over so much and blistering through the classifieds my head hurts. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 9:55pm
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MD, Found you. Yea late to the party as usual. Welcome! Hope you get that family tractor back. Dont let it out of your site! Hey your Dad is 1 year and 2 days older than me!:) Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:06pm
Thanks Kerry! She’s not with the drummer is she? LOL Musicians,guitars and old Winchester’s yeah I could talk pages on that stuff.Since my wife was determined to get Christmas up and off today😁  ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:10pm
Thanks Chris,not late at all,right on time! Yeah dad and I were talking about grandpa’s old CA today and he said he had a good mind to just go offer the old man whatever he wanted for it or trade him another tractor for it,whatever it takes. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: KerryM
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:18pm
Nope. That was my older daughter.  Younger one has a guy that his guitar says Fender... ------------- 1950 C, 1952 CA, 1961 D17 (Dads last tractor) 1944 Farmall B, 1947 Farmall B, Bobcat 610 |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:30pm
Gotcha...well at least he’s not playing on some crazy pointy guitar most kids play on today.Yep ,I’ve got Fender Telecaster set up like my hero Waylon just not with the full leather wrap. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: KerryM
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:37pm
Sweet!  ------------- 1950 C, 1952 CA, 1961 D17 (Dads last tractor) 1944 Farmall B, 1947 Farmall B, Bobcat 610 |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2018 at 10:41pm
Thankya sir😁 ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 8:11am
Welcome to the forum!! After a while, you'll like this forum even more than the other one...at least ONE of your guitars is the correct color..... Enjoy yourself and ask ANYTHING you need to. There are guys & gals on here from every walk of life and have answers to everything......even arguments sometimes....  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 8:47am
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Welcome MD, Nice tractors, looks like you and your Dad are doing a fine job. Musical talent is only a fantasy of mine, but here is my old Winchester. Model 37, my Grandpa bought this gun used in 1940. He only had one arm and he used to hunt rabbits with it. It's probably not worth much, but it's priceless to me. Thanks, I've been waiting for an excuse to bring up guns on the forum. 
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 10:27am
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Ranse, Folks, MD, I gave both my grandfathers and my Dad's Winchester Model 1897 pump guns to my son to add to his collection. I had restored these (stripped, sanded, polished and reblued, then re-finished the stocks) and had them for a long time. Thought they should go to the gun guy in the family. Both are 16 Gage. I Know the one that I grew up with (Grandfathers) was purchased in Erie PA from a pawn shop for $10 in around 1930 ish. The bluing was worn off. No pictures! Sorry. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: BEK
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 10:45am
Happy to see more representation from North Carolina! 
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Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 11:52am
I know right,I actually posted that pic on my Gretsch forum and the guys there loved it.Known most of them for years and either they grew up with AC tractors and could relate or they thought that the Gretsch & AC brand were uncanny close to resemblance and agree it’s very cool. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 12:05pm
Oh WOW ,a 37!! Well I know guns can be a tricky subject but old Colts and Winchester especially are my passion.I’ve been collecting them since my teens,SAA Colts later. For those of our elders here that know Jimmy Stewart may remember a movie he did about David Marshall ‘Carbine’ Williams.Marshall was my grandfathers cousin..the Williams family is pretty big around the Godwin and Wade area. Anyway while @ Winchester he would send a few rifles back and I have 2 of them among a slew of other lever guns.  By the way I’m any given day a 37 Win is worth about $500,more if it’s a 16 or 410 and a Red letter will bring a tad more.But hang on to it. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 12:07pm
Absolutely!!! My wife and kids do quite a bit of surf fishing down your way,Carolina Beach actually and Ft Fisher. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 12:07pm
Chris ,I need some pics good sir 😬 ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 2:23pm
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MD, Sugarmaker, I was told Grandpa gave $3 for that gun in 1940. As for the value of one now, I've heard everything from 150 to 500 dollars. No offence Sugarmaker, but I've been told refinishing a gun actually diminishes the value rather than increasing it. I guess it depends, a bad refinish job certainly would I'd say. I think the wood on mine looks good to be original. The bluing is long gone, but if you hold the bottom of the receiver under a good light, you can still make out the red in the lettering. At any rate, I guess it will stay as is. It suits me and it's never used anymore anyway. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 3:35pm
Absolutely,it looks too good to mess with.Really so far as value to something like these old Winchesters it really depends on the market and what a person is looking for but there is a baseline and at one time that really only pertained to the pre64 guns but even that now has changed.Since the factory closing and Browning/FN is over manufacturing ,the post 64’s to 2006 guns are holding a decent ground.Like land ,these aren’t being made anymore and there’s people out there willing to pay...but again don’t sell it,these will likely keep going up.Tip...boiled linseed oil is nurturing food for these old walnut stocks.😁 ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 8:10pm
| Welcome to the Forum! Good luck with all of your Allis Chalmers projects. Dan. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 8:42pm
Thanks Dan,glad to be here ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 8:42pm
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Ranse, Folks, Yea I may have diminished the value of those old corn huskers. But they were not in good condition and I wanted to save them and have them in a condition that my great grand kids could take them out hunting safely. Both needed some smithing and I had both chambers bored deeper to use standard ammo produced today. So like a lot of my other projects the guns were refurbed, repaired, and refinished to be reused and enjoyed. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2018 at 7:43am
Sometimes in such situations when it comes to a point of having to save a certain item you have to take steps like this to keep it from just becomeing useless junk.Nothing wrong there especially when being kept and used. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |