Tree brand milling machine
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Topic: Tree brand milling machine
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: Tree brand milling machine
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 6:18am
| There is a Tree brand mill for sale near here. It’s cheap because the owner has no way to load it. I may talk Jenn into letting me go look. I’m trying to think of wats I could load it. I have a cherry picker and small Ford tractor with a loader. Y’all got any ideas? A little research tells me the old tree weighs around 3400 |
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 7:22am
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I've seen them loaded with forks. If it has the telescoping head you set it about half way so you have ways in front of and behind the column then pick it up from the side ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 9:16am
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Roll back tow truck ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 9:37am
| X2 what Pat says |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 10:21am
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CHIT,,Thad,,,,first time I read your post I thought you was talkin bout tryin to get something BIG to use as a mill to cut up a tree,,,,,  ,,,what was I thinkin,,?? finally got my head outa my arse,,,,,  I never heard of a "TREE" brand "MILL" but if you don't want it ,,,,I'll take it,,,,!!!!! what are the specefics ??? There are many times I think I need a small mill like maybe a tabletop size,,but you never see them smaller ones for sale,,,I ain't got room for a floor model one anyway,,,,I been thinkin bout pickin up a bigger table drill press and maybe get a cross feed table vise,,, good luck on that one,,,,,
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 10:51am
Joe it’s a big ole American girl. Similar but heavier than a Bridgeport. I really don’t have room either nor 3 phase I’m still thinking on it. He says he has boxes of tooling that comes with it. He doesn’t know anymore than I do. Sounds like he’s moving and needs it gone. You should see the Jeep he just sold for $500.00 He’s askin $200.00 for this mill.wouldnt ya know it??? Jenn has me hanging crown molding this morning.😢 |
desertjoe wrote:Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 10:55am
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Is it the size of this one? If it is you should be able to pick it up with a two ton or larger engine lift and back a trailer or pickup under it. Set it on planks and slide it to where you would chain it down. If it is larger you might need a fork truck or a wrecker. I move my Bridgeport with my fork truck from press to press to do secondary boring. I would never guess it at a ton and a half though, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tree-2UV-Milling-Machine/352221637068?hash=item52020ba9cc:g:PO4AAOSw30JbFVMr" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tree-2UV-Milling-Machine/352221637068?hash=item52020ba9cc:g:PO4AAOSw30JbFVMr |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 11:04am
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Probly this one then! That would be a little harder to move and a fork truck would be a better choice. There would have to be a contractor close to the mill that would have a forklift or large loader and would do it cheaper than a wrecker. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tree-Model-2UVR-42-Table-1-5Hp-220-440V-3Ph-Milling-Machine-W-Kurt-Vise/113156356469?hash=item1a58a4f975:g:b4YAAOSwhOpbT44I" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tree-Model-2UVR-42-Table-1-5Hp-220-440V-3Ph-Milling-Machine-W-Kurt-Vise/113156356469?hash=item1a58a4f975:g:b4YAAOSwhOpbT44I |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 11:40am
The pics look just like this one in the pic. The owner texted back and his info says 2600 lbs. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 11:57am
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what Pat said! several years ago no 2 son bought a machine about that size and decided he could haul it with his Ford 150....in the bed!!!! Well long story short, I had to go bail him out. when I got near I called and told him to get a wrecker lined up to xfer from his truckbed to my trailer. When I show up there is a rollback there. I thought we were screwed, but I learned what a skilled operator can do with a rollback ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 12:00pm
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Oh, and DickL pointed out something that is real important. whatever you haul with, make sure you put planks under it to spread the load out some ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 12:30pm
Will do Lou. It would be on my 16’ trailer and have to live on the trailer for a couple weeks to clear a spot for it. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 2:06pm
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Thad , you can run a three phase motor on single phase if the motor is a 480/ 240 v 3 phase... You wire to the 240 v schematic.. What is needed is a "phase converter"... you connect two of the 3 phase wires to the two hot wires on the 240 v single phase.. and you use a couple capacitors on one of your hot wires and connect to the third wire on the 3 phase motor.. The capacitor throws the voltage a little out of phase and it simulates 3 phases.. You can get about 70% of the motor HP if the capacitors are selected right.. You can build you own converter, but simple way is to buy one prebuilt. I have seen them on e-bay... you choose 3-5-7 HP that matches your mill motor and they build you a box with the correct capacitors to match.. I have an old 20 inch lathe built it 1915 that is powered this way. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 4:59pm
Awesome info Steve. I don’t know anyone around here that would build one. I’m gonna start looking on eBay right now. Could this be set up with a receptical to plug different 3 phase machines in to it if they were similar in hp? Just curious because I usually pass on 3 phase tools but see them sell cheap because of. |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 5:31pm
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In the 1970's a five man tool shop that is was in on a weekly basis ran the shop serviced with 200 amp service 2 phase with a 100 HP 3 phase motor. They used a single phase 110 motor belted to the 100 hp to start the 100 HP motor running on 2 phase before switching power on the 3 phase buss that fed all the machines. No starting capacitors. The shop had five Bridgeport mills, two Reed surface grinders, two Southbend lathes, a shaper, a large radial drill press and a large Cincinnati mill all on 3 phase. I have been in the shop when all five Bridgeport mills were running. The two hot wires from the service was hooked thru a switch to two wires on the 100 horse motor as well as hooked to two buss terminals. The third terminal on the buss was hooked to the third wire on the 100 hp motor. That was all he had other than the 110 motor belted to the 100hp motor to get it running. A 3 phase motor will run on 2 phases without a load. When I loose one phase on one of my machines under load it will run until the motor starter kicks off because of over load which needs to be very quickly or the motor will let the smoke out. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 10:17pm
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A phase converter can also be made out of a AC variable speed control for 3 ph motors , if your using a 3 ph motor for a phase converter the recommendation is 1 size larger motor that the load will be - though I have a 3 HP motor running my 5 HP lathe - I use a small phase converter on my Bridgeport . Son is using a 10 HP motor to run his side of shop with Parana (iron worker press/shear) and 2 Bridgeport's ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2018 at 10:34am
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This is a really great article for us guys that ain't juice-tricians,,,, My shop compressor is a 2 cylinder single stage that makes more than enough sustained cfm for anything I need to run but the motor is some marginal at 3 HP with many, many miles under it's belts (no pun intended) It has started to lug down in RPM some right before it kicks out at 100#, so I'm thinkin it's gonna show me some smoke one of these days,,,, Some time back, I had bought a 7.5 HP, 3 phase 230-460 motor planning to get a Phase Converter built by a juice-trician friend of mine but he got transferred and that ain't gonna work now,,,,,, Guess I better start lookin in Ebay now,,,,,unless,,,,,,
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2018 at 6:29pm
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desertjoe, When that motor starts to lug down check the voltage on the wires feeding it. It could be that you have a voltage drop. If so fix that. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 7:21am
| Work has a Tree Mill for maintenance. Pretty well made old mill. Good you got a box of tooling with it, if it's like ours, it's a little different and kind of obsolete (though you can always find stuff if you look hard enough!) |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 7:41am
| Y’all I didn’t get the mill. I tried to go look Saturday morning and the owner didn’t make it. I got busy and saw it sold yesterday afternoon. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 9:53am
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Well,,Chit,,,Thad,,,and here I was gonna send you a check for $2.00 and just save it for me till we get together,,,,ratz,,,,,, On another note according to the pics that ole Dick posted,,,that was a HUGE machine and woulda took a whole lot of real estate in my little old garage,,,,I think I still want a tabletop size machine,,,,,,,,,,  |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 11:18am
Joe I think the fact that it used up so much real estate is what had me dragging my feet. I also want an older large heavy duty bench top mill. |