Brush/Junk Pile Burn
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Topic: Brush/Junk Pile Burn
Posted By: fixer1958
Subject: Brush/Junk Pile Burn
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 9:03am
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Have had this growing brush junk pile going for about 5 years now. It's big. Been wanting to burn but haven't gotten around to getting a permit yet for this year. It's free, just haven't done it. Just all the grass mowed all around it and my youngest asked me if we might ought to burn it's beings it's green and no wind and we have had some rain. I was a little apprehensive about it because of the permit but thought about it and told him to call it in anyway. Well they changed the system and it is automated now. No headway there so I called a county cop friend and he said do it anyway only wait till dark if you don't remember what's in there. Black smoke. He said he did it just last weekend. He doesn't have a permit either. OK then. About that time a neighbor on the corner of the section lit something up an was throwing black smoke 200' in the air. 3/4 mile away. I waited till almost dark and lit mine. Got going pretty good, few smaller explosions, all was fine. Had the skid steer on hand for grass fires and sure as chit here comes the fire police. He got a little pissy about the permit and I told him I tried to call it in and he even said it was a PITA now. Turns out he wasn't even looking for me, it was the other guy. I got a warning and a stern talking to. Been doing the same chit for 25 years and only called it in maybe 3 times. Got to be the infiltration of city people. No one even knows there is a house back in here but the neighbors and google. Got out of that one. |
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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 9:52am
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Next time, tell them you were welding earlier in the day and it caught fire after you were done. When the fire cop comes around, tell him you had things under control and did not believe it was worth bothering the fire department. Be nice and thank him for his concern.
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Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 9:57am
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Yeah, when the Fire Captain speaks, a person seems to listen! I got my ONE warning about 15 years ago. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 10:38am
| Never get an answer at the FD when we call. I then call the PD and they ok it. I was called in on recently and lucky the FD guy was our neighbor and a good guy. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 11:33am
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Our local fire marshal is a good guy. I always call him and discuss my burn plans before I call the county dispatch for a permit. It is a good idea to check the weather on http://www.wunderground.com" rel="nofollow - www.wunderground.com or http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi" rel="nofollow - http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 11:48am
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Fire permits up here are $10 for the calendar year, so I'd go in Jan 1 to get my money's worth! Last one the chief 'forgot' to put the date on it..hmmm...a 'forever permit' ! Since I know the local fire captain, Scott, I never get visits, cept when we 'talk Allis'. He even got MOSt of the drivers to NOT turn on the very,very LOUD, eye piercing sirens until AFTER they pass my place. Told him, I'll have a heart attack one day otherwise... he understood. Makes me wonder just how friggin loud it is IN the firetruck. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 12:39pm
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In the county here, there are no permits. Only in the city are you required to get a permit. Reminds me of when I worked at the local Agco/ Kubota dealer while I was in High School. Some small tractors and implements came in wooden crates. Our standard procedure was to haul the crates out back and burn them. The owner never would get a permit and we were usually ok, as long as you kept the fire small, where you couldn’t see it from the road. This particular day, we had the fire going, and here comes the owner with a full 55 gal drum of used oil in the bucket of a loader. He dumped that drum right on top of the already hot fire. We all stepped back and watched. As the drum got hotter, it started poping and making all sorts of noises, and the pressure on the drum increased. Finally the thin metal of the drum had had enough, it split right in the seam where the top and the sides are connected. The hot oil shot straight up into the air, being ignited my the fire as it escaped. This was right after the time of the first Gulf War. You remember that when Sadam got run out of Kuwait and lit all those oil wells on fire? This was exactly what that reminded me of. People were stopping on the Hwy and coming out of neighboring businesses to see what was going on. It was so hot we had to back way away from the fire. It wasn’t long until we heard the sirens. In the end, we had just about every emergency agency in the county there, and they were mad. Turns out the owner of the dealership just got a stern talking to, he was friends with all the local officials. |
Posted By: Tom6070
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 12:46pm
| Foggy mornings are your best friend for fires. Maybe it doesn't get foggy out in the plains. When I need to burn something , I wait until the school has a fog delay, then grab the matches. |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 1:48pm
You should have had the entire family out there roasting hot dogs when the Fire Police rolled up ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 5:47pm
Usedta have problems wif the one neighbor, on the smoky side. He'd call in a burn barrel. So I dug a hole, about 16' deep, in the center, and piled all the dirt, around it, in a circle, cept for the eastern side where I would push brush in from. I would wait fer the first snow, in winter, and there was about an inch on the ground, I'd light her off. Way it was situated, you could only see it from a spot or 2 on an isolated back road...
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 6:43pm
| Don't mess around with the "Fruits and Nuts" clean air out here. The Air Resources Broad(ARB) has the Snowflakes thinking they could live forever if they can breath clean air. Fire department doesn't charger for a permit but ARB whats $50 or more. Last I knew $1000 if you burned on a day that did not suit the ARB. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 7:02pm
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We got to get a Burn Permit for the calendar year, $5.00. Not supposed to burn treated or painted lumber, or any of those polluting other items, or burn after dark. That's just for burn piles. Campfire and burn barrels are okay anytime. I have a 250 gallon oil drum for my burn barrel. Don't use it much, but it's nicer that the regular old 55 that I used to use. I cut a hole in the end to load it. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 7:47pm
| not even gonna mention my secrets! |
Posted By: allis g
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 10:47pm
| That's correct Ray APCD is a pain in the behind. Heck last year I was burning with a permit and some idiot called it in. Calfire showed up and laughed. |
Posted By: CaseyCreek
Date Posted: 07 May 2018 at 9:35am
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I am glad that you all have found solutions to getting rid of brush, but you have reminded me of how lucky we are in L.A. I get rid of some pretty good size piles every summer and all I am asked to do is notify the local 911 operator so that they don't send out the FD on a false alarm. Oh, they DO ask me to call for help if I need it. Good system. ------------- D17 Series III,D17 Series IV, 185 |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 07 May 2018 at 7:21pm
| We have to call county dispatch and let them know, I always tell them I am burning brush in the fence line and the garbage from the farm. Don't be specific about anything else. They always ask what time you will be done burning, well you know how that goes you get a good pile going it can burn a couple of days. Thats not the answer they are looking for. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 07 May 2018 at 9:07pm
Only good lately is Calfire is tired of the air copes and are not friendly anymore. I was just told if a Snowflake calls about a smoke even if you called Calfire and told them you are burning with a permit,they will roll out so they can report all is well. It would appear that Calfire has open seasonal fire stations as of May 1st. Running 17 or 18 miles to town for groceries every now in the fire truck.
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allis g wrote:Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 07 May 2018 at 11:29pm
| went in the other day for my yearly permit, told them I had a whole bunch of tires I needed burned! the look on their face was priceless! lol |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 9:33am
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I helped a friend burn a brush pile yesterday. The day before I gave him the number for the county dispatcher. Well he called them on Sunday and they told him ok but did not give him a permit number. We had a big fire yesterday and the local fire marshal showed up. Turns out my friend dialed the wrong number. The number turned out to be a funeral home. He must have talked to an answering service. Perhaps the answering service thought he was asking if a cremation needed a burn permit. LOL When all was figured out, there was no problem with the fire marshal and we all had a good laugh.
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