653 issues
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Category: Allis Chalmers
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Topic: 653 issues
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Subject: 653 issues
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 9:30am
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After years of searching I found my grandfather's 653. She's in rough shape but that doesn't matter. Guy parked it because it lost drive and I have to talk to him some more but I remember something about fluid loss. What are common issues with loss of drive? This is an early 653 with the dry clutches like an HD4. Thanks for any help! ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 9:44am
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Yes if the torque converter or the clutch pack is low or empty - the machine will not move . dipstick under the right floor board and is suppose to be checked warm with engine running - it might have mark for off position but not a true reading ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 9:50am
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Thanks Coke. Not sure if you saw the pics over on Facebook but she's not sged well since he sold it back in the early 90's. First on my agenda is getting it running when moving, then chase from there. ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 8:57pm
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Where on Facebook do we look? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 7:50am
its on the Allis Chalmers Crawler tractors page ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
JohnCO wrote:Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 8:30am
| That has to be a good feeling to get that back in the family. Congratulations on finding it! Darrel |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 10:45am
| Congratulations on getting her back in the family. That must be a great feeling. |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 8:10am
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It was unbelievable to find it especially just a few miles from home. Been on a hard hunt for his D15 series 1 diesel also but it seemed to have disappeared. ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 8:28am
| I understand. One thing about heavy equipment, in many cases it does not move far from home due to shipping. The larger the piece of equipment the closer to home base it can be. The HD16 I have went through 4 owners during the span of 1961 to present. I found each owner and the original owner and have talked to them all on tractor history and past issues or repairs. Tractor wound up roughly 150 miles from point of origin when I found it. Was pretty cool digging into to it. |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 6:29pm
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Stopped today and got the manuals from the previous owner and talked to Jim a bit. Reason it stopped moving is it started dumping trans fluid. Once I get it home I guess I'm hunting for a blown line or seal. Any prone spots for fluid loss? ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 7:25pm
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If you got the manuals - then your on the right track to find the problem ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: ac-mike
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2018 at 7:34am
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My machine has the foot steer drive. It developed leaks in the lines just below the seat and above the differential. It would really help if you knew the location of the drip falling from machine. Tough machine for a big man to work on!!!!! ------------- D-12III, 200D, 170G, HD-3, D19D 3pt, D17D High Crop, WD45G p/s, D15IID, D15IIG, D15G IND, 655, (3)WD45D p/s, 700, 816 |
Posted By: Randaleky
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2018 at 12:13am
| my hd4 had leaks on bottom of torque tube housing covers. tightened down and stopped them. also as mike said the lines from the shuttle shifter to the side going into the torque tube assembly get rotten and leak. check to se if atf fluid is in the rear differential compartment. hope not ! |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 5:13pm
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I'll definitely check these things it. He said it definitely was dropping fluid out the bottom ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 12:46pm
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She's home! Was very easy getting loaded. Did some more talking with the previous owner and he never found exactly what the leak came from but said it appeared internal. Just ATF was leaking. Possibly the Torque converter? ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |