COE or other old semi
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Topic: COE or other old semi
Posted By: Charlie175
Subject: COE or other old semi
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 7:37am
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For some reason I have a hankering to get a COE or some 60's/70's semi single axle. Don't really have a need, just a want. Would use it to pull a 25' Goose. Maybe in the future get a short low boy trailer for heavier hauling. Just tractors to pulls and such. Looking at the Ford or GMC Cab overs, I like the shape of them. Have heard that shifting was a constant issue with them ? due to the long linkage. How were the Diesel/gas motors of this era? Otherwise a nice IH early 70's COE would be nice. Maybe they right like crap, never been in one. I like something with a short turning radius as I have to get into some tight places. Pic for Reference  ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 8:25am
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Ford made those cabovers up into the early 90's and they were virtually unchanged. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Ferdinand
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 8:43am
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There is one for sale on the Raleigh NC Craigslist. It is a flat bed no fifth wheel. So probably not what you are looking for. https://raleigh.craigslist.org/hvo/d/ford-cabover-flatbed-dump/6396921295.html" rel="nofollow - https://raleigh.craigslist.org/hvo/d/ford-cabover-flatbed-dump/6396921295.html ------------- Because narrow is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Mathew 7:14 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 9:25am
| still lots of fire trucks out there that are COE's, all makes. and they would have the best maintanence and low miles. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 9:45am
| Most will be gassers.Don't know what deisel option may been.Lot of Chevys will be 366.On earlier(60's) Chevys ,the gear stick reached in cab so no linkage issue. Find you a later model air ride single axle day cab with a little Cummins or be prepared to wish it later. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 9:49am
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How about this? http://www.paramountclassiccars.com/vehicle-details/1981-international-4070b-coe-hickory-nc-id-11940817" rel="nofollow - http://www.paramountclassiccars.com/vehicle-details/1981-international-4070b-coe-hickory-nc-id-11940817 ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 11:18am
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Implications of getting one of these? No Commercial, but would CDL come into play anyway? ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 11:34am
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Charlie, Thats a nice looking IH COE for about the price of a used lawn mower. Go for it! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 11:35am
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From recent discussion about CDL still many things are different state to state so you would need to try to read your states "rule book". May be able to stay under the 26,000# and licence it as such. But the air brakes probably means you would need a CDL. Many mid west states are good with farmer exemptions on the CDL,would sure be nice if your state has such a policy.
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 11:50am
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neighbor has one just like pic in original post with a grain bed on it. ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 12:26pm
Virginia DOT says:How do I know if I need a commercial driver's license (CDL)?If you plan on driving a tractor trailer, tank vehicle, or school bus that carries 16 passengers or more, you need a CDL. There are a few exceptions to the types of vehicles that require a CDL to operate them, though. You do not need a CDL for the following types of vehicles:
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 12:27pm
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Here you can have air brakes without CDL as long as it's a single axle and under 26,000 lbs ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 12:28pm
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You see lots of Single axle rigs around pulling livestock or GN's with hay with Farm use tags. Antique Tractor pulling isn't quite farming though.... ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 12:41pm
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Those little Cab Forwards were really popular at one time for city delivery trucks and small tractor trailer units. Yes the shift linkage gets a bit iffy feeling and not because worn out just long reach and lots of connections for slight wear that adds up. White or now Volvo still makes one called an Expeditor for Trash service. Fords of that style usually had 3208 or 1160 or 3160 Cat dependent on year and whether or not had engine swaps. Last units built had the Ford straight six diesel but they were primarily at the freight companies as Roadway. GMs could have the 8.2L Fuel Pinchers in them if were diesel, most were gas as noted. IHC could have gas or 466 engines and yes parts are as scarce for these today as our own Allis units. Last Fords built were early 90's, last GMS before went to the Euro Cab trucks was in the 80's. IHC quit marketing them around the same time as Ford. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 1:30pm
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Drat, didn't think about parts ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 1:54pm
| Common terminology is not Cab Over but Low Cab Forward. Cab overs were straight up and a lot heavier series. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 4:17pm
| Shen I ran the vehicle section on the Air Force we had 20 of the f800 fords like in the picture. They we miserable things to drive underpowered with Cat motors and horable to service. I've got two Sterling cab foward sat work now and aMac cab over at the farm. While they will turn slightly shorter than a conventional cab they are miserable to drive. Try climbing in and out all day for harvest and you'll never let anyone even give you one. They usually sell real cheep. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 4:25pm
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I believe the Fords had a C (C800 etc.) designation for these rather then an F ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 5:25pm
| Yes the Fords were C7 & 800's. The GMs were L series Viking or Tiltmaster. |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 12:18am
| After doing all I could to run them down in the other thread I gotta say you will love a cab over. Visibility is unmatched, you'll be the only one out there with one and they are just kewl. Always reminded me of a steam locomotive leaning into the pull and walking away. I've always liked them they just got some hinky quirks to them. Maneuverability alone makes them worth having around. |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 2:26am
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I drove plenty of them two-story trucks when I was a kid,,,,,,,,, but after I growed up around 50, I purty much drove truck from the ground floor..................... ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 9:12am
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Had a Viking 60 - 1966 vintage with a 327 and 4 speed - rollback tilt bed - single axle - carried my IH 460 to grading jobs rather than tag trailer and dump truck - Hauled my HD5G on it a few times also but the GVW ended up around 32,500 and as license was 27,000 - Ended up putting a 5 speed in it and then replaced cab with later unit as rust got to it ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 9:42am
| If your actually looking for one check out the grand forks Craig's list. https://grandforks.craigslist.org/cto/d/1956-chevy-coe-cab-over-lcf/6428493482.html" rel="nofollow - https://grandforks.craigslist.org/cto/d/1956-chevy-coe-cab-over-lcf/6428493482.html . Looks good in pictures. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 2:59pm
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Would be mine if I could justify it. Well, that and the radioactive part https://nwga.craigslist.org/cto/d/1956-ford-750big/6412389721.html" rel="nofollow - https://nwga.craigslist.org/cto/d/1956-ford-750big/6412389721.html  ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 3:03pm
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Here's another that could be fun. Expensive but fun. Not to far from me https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/d/1954-international-coe/6385533339.html" rel="nofollow - https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/d/1954-international-coe/6385533339.html ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 6:20pm
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About 30 years ago when I lived in Whitehorse, Yukon there was a 1953 Mercury COE like last one posted that appeared to have been sitting unused for years. It looked in mint condition compared the one on the Atlanta craigslist. Not much rust in the Yukon. I did think about trying to buy it but it was too much of a heavy duty model for my needs. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 8:38pm
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My son had one, think it was a 700 with a 429 gas and an Allison auto trans, not bad to drive, a little rough and lots of gas but good power, he had a dump box on his for landscaping. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 8:44pm
| Tyler....I thinks either one of them trucks would make a good school car for Evie! |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 11:50pm
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I've got a 63 Chevy C70 high cab with a 6V53 Detroit, five and two speed. Ford called their version an N series. It's had a building sitting on it for around 12 years. Finally decided to dismantle the building. Engine won't start but runs on either, must be some kind of fuel delivery problem. Also, sitting so long the brakes have stuck to the drums. Once the building is off, I'll try to get her running. Didn't burn much oil but sure leaks plenty and the exhaust sure was dark. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 7:58am
I bet she would agree ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
shameless dude wrote:Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 4:01pm
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I've posted this flatbed COE in the classifieds @ Okc, Ok. http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/grd/d/flatbed-cab-over-truck/6447701927.html" rel="nofollow - https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/grd/d/flatbed-cab-over-truck/6447701927.html  ------------- How blessed we are by HIS GRACE! |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 8:05pm
  i love these trucks, I had the same idea. dan
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 10:26pm
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"Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around!" ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 4:11pm
| My Dad and uncle had a Ford C-700 as their first implement truck at the dealership. It had a custom made 22' flatbed that tilted back. That truck only lasted a few years until it was replaced with a larger B-51 Mack. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 6:24pm
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Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 9:08pm
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uploads/11000/tumblr_n27gvhUX211t0t2cjo1_1280_2018-01-06_21-06-27.jpg" rel="nofollow - uploads/11000/tumblr_n27gvhUX211t0t2cjo1_1280_2018-01-06_21-06-27.jpg Really neeet trucks!! The cracker boxe's!! thanks; ac fleet |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 5:48pm
Hotrodders are grabbin' those 48-52 Ford, GMC, & Chevy COE's and setting them down on later model chassis' making car carriers out of em'. They look awesome when they're done, and they have all the creature comforts of a new truck with the newer chassis under it like AC Diesels top pic. COOL!  Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 7:33am
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Charlie You'll probably enjoy this Video. 7 min. of 'Classic Cabovers' Gary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvMK8mrLsc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvMK8mrLsc |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 12:25pm
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Those are some cool ones! ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 11:57pm
| when I was farming...I had an old military semi tractor for pulling a farm trailer, was a 1974 IH single axle, when I sold it, it had a little over 2000 actual miles on it! my trips to and from the elevators were only a couple of miles away. when I bought it on an auction (military auction) it had only about 500 miles on it. another bit of Govt. waste! makes me wonder why they had to have a semi tractor so bad and then only put 500 miles on it in 30 plus years! the drab paint was still good on it when I sold it. man that truck was clean and still drove like a new one! shucks it wasn't hardy even broke in yet! the military even put new tires on it before I bought it...had the tits on them yet. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 9:49am
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They have to waste our money somewhere. We're not comfortable without being several trillion in debt so it's new semis for everyone! ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Greg (Hillsboro, OH)
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:37am
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did you see this post? http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/who-was-looking-for-a-coe_topic151383.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/who-was-looking-for-a-coe_topic151383.html |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:03pm
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Yeah. The 3rd post is mine. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 4:08pm
| I drove a 68 GMC tilt cab with 478 V6 gas engine. It was a single drive axle with an air lift tag. 5 speed with 2 speed axle. Wasn't a bad old truck but at that time we did not know of comfort! With that cab I always felt I could be the first witness at the scene of my own accident! |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:45pm
A 478 V6!  That's sounds fun ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 10:05pm
| Army had dozens of them, called DCO's or diesel cab overs. You don't want to see a guys legs if you rear end anyone. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 1:58am
| check out Big Iron July 11th sale under "fire truck |