190 XT pulling better this year
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Topic: 190 XT pulling better this year
Posted By: Beirnesy
Subject: 190 XT pulling better this year
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2017 at 5:59pm
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put a BW s200 on for this season , seems a lot stronger , 4th low(7th) still wondering if I should cut the fuel back some. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIIyKA7LGlA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIIyKA7LGlA
------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
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Posted By: Allisplumber
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 6:35am
| I run a 200 and what helped me was putting a smaller exhaust housing on the turbo and driving the turbo harder so you don't fall under the turbo on the end , I don't know what you are building for boost ? Allischalmers 301 engines don't breathe very well , doesn't look like to much fuel to me , step the exhaust down one step and try that , thinking that will help you a lot , I build around 48 psi of boost and spin out at the end every time . |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 9:18am
| Good looking tractor,, it definetly fell off at the end , id try Allisplumbers idea, I wouldn't back the fuel down, its a good black, its keeping the flame down , flames out of the stack look cool, but it means stuff under it is HOT ! |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 4:40pm
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Thanks for the advice, it is the .83 A/R turbine housing ------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: Allisplumber
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 5:59pm
| I would step that down 2 sizes , the 301 motor will not over turn that big turbo unless you have some major head work done to it , I'm only running a .58 on mine but my turbo is smaller then the s200 , good luck hopefully that will keep it alive for you |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 9:53am
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The .83 is pretty small. I think you drowned it with fuel at the end. That pump had enough fuel to feed a 426. It takes heat to drive the turbo. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 12:08pm
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should I turn torque screw in a 1/4 inch, or would that cause complications in other sections of that built pump ? Thanks for advice as well ED.
------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 1:11pm
| Ice water intercooler. |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 1:47pm
Thats what my 18 year old son keeps telling me, and you can never go wrong with a cooler charge of air, but not allowed if I want to pull in OTTPA, although when your AC is 100 C I less than rest the class, maybe they should allow. I should mention it makes 55 lbs boost quite easy .
------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
DrAllis wrote:Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 2:03pm
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try running the torque screw in, and a 1/4" would make a difference I'd think, but I haven't seen that pump in so long, that I can't even guess where the screw was set. I would have left it wide open last time I had my hands on it. It will not hurt anything. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: KevinON
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2017 at 7:19am
| Looking good. |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 12:33pm
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This weekends hook, having fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z60MhxiNqok" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z60MhxiNqok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT1iReGOfmI
------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 1:50pm
| That's the way it's done! Very nice! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2017 at 7:37am
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Good looking 190. What tires are you running? Is the rear end stock and if so have you had any issues? I pull mine in the stock farm class. Ed has done his magic on the pump, and I put in a 6 puck clutch. I had plenty of power and spun out. Previous owner put tires on from the local coop. Okay for the farm but not for pulling. Would love to have some Firestone radials. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2017 at 9:21pm
tires are Good Year dyna torque, they where cheap, not my favorite tire. Has new 3rd and 4 th A&I gears, sliding collar, shift fork. ------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2018 at 10:54am
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2018 UPDATE. New steel flywheel and double disc clutch from ATLAS tractor, (very smooth instalation and works great). Boost pressure runs 52-54 psi and exhaust pressure at 32 psi. BW S200 57 x 61 with .83 exhaust housing. should I go with tighter exhaust housing ? first hook in 3 high track very tight, second hook in 4 low. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDu1lpZgjk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDu1lpZgjk
------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2018 at 2:12pm
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From the catalog I have the .83 is the smallest A/R ration housing offered for the S200. With the exhaust pressure being as low as it is that would probably explain why it dies off so fast when the load hits. Almost think the 52mm S200 would have balanced better. Everyone thinks bigger is better. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 5:35pm
| shorter tire will sure keep the rpm's up. even if you went up a gear ? |