Need input on new square baling/raking tractor
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Topic: Need input on new square baling/raking tractor
Posted By: gerkendave
Subject: Need input on new square baling/raking tractor
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 9:10pm
| Hey everyone. Looking for some input from guys who have been around the block! Looking to get a different tractor to use on the New Holland 269 baler and the rake. Have a 190xt I use on the round baler and love it. Now looking for something around the 50-60 horse range. I grew up on Farmall and liked them so I was leaning towards something like a 460-560. Neighbor has a 400 he was willing to sell so I went to look at it and while I was there he tried selling me on a case 800 with a case o'matic. I've never been around one but after driving it a bit kinda liked it. I like sitting up higher for visibility is the reason I haven't looked at another Allis ( unfortunately). Anyone have any input on either of these or maybe a better choice. Thanks in advance |
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Posted By: Don (Utah)
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 9:20pm
| D17 is the best!! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 10:03pm
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I had a Case O Matic once it wasn't for me guess they take some getting used to.I've been using the D15 to square bale works pretty good,also the Oliver 1550 gas with high/low giving it 12 speeds is a good tractor with the square baler. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 10:09pm
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D17 is a good choice, but a 170/175 diesel feels more nimble and the Perkins engine is hard to beat. I'd stay away from any gas tractor for economy.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 10:18pm
Economy with a gas tractor is the difference between the cost of it and a diesel and the prices on them.If the gasser is several thousand less than a diesel on a lightly used tractor a few hrs a year then it'd be a long time before the diesel caught up to it price wise. Also diesels run cheaper but the repair bills are a whole lot more when they need work. |
Eldon (WA) wrote:Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 10:22pm
| I've been leaning towards gas. We won't be doing any more than a couple hundred squares a year and thought a gas tractor would be nice to have in the winter. Would eventually like to put a loader on whatever we go with to help feed rounds and move snow if needed. I'm not opposed to looking at a 17 but around here it's hard to find much in the shape of an Allis and we are trying to keep it at 3 thousand or less if possible. Also not to keen on straddling the transmission honestly. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:25pm
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The first machine I ever operated, was a D17, and Grandpa put me at the controls to rake hay. After that, we used it to bale hay. He told me once that the D17 was 'the best' hay-baling tractor ever made. It wasn't until I operated other tractors, that I understood what he meant, but after having done so, I'll have to agree with him on it. My mother raked and baled with his WD-45, WD, and WC tractors from her early teenage through college years, and her brothers and sisters did too (youngest brother still works the family farm). I don't farm, but I use my D17 for all sorts of things, and if I were to need to hook up a baler or rake, the D17 would be the first choice. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Ron(AB)
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 12:09am
| Correct me if I'm wrong…but the Case has fewer gears and is harder to shift than an Allis D17 or 175. The Allis high low shift is very handy baling. As is being able to hold it in neutral (on the hand clutch) if there is a lump or if you're re-baling a broken bale. |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 6:50am
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Dads 830 Case O Matic had a 4 speed with a high low and a converter lock. 16 speeds. Fun tractor but there are zero converter parts left in the world. 20 years ago when dad had to redo his he got the last of several of the converter parts. I’d go for a 170 or 175. D17 is what I use on the baler, but I think a 170 or 175 sits you a little higher. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:01am
| Thanks everyone. Looks like I'll keep searching. Anybody ever been able to buy a decent 170/175 for 3k is the next question. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:06am
| Also while I'm at it just to widen my search a bit, if I were to look at d17's was there a certain series that got better hydraulics or a series that had better p.s. for loader work? Anything to look out for etc. Would all help me. Only been around a couple d14's while I was younger but never got to operate them. |
Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:14am
| I think you going to have a hard time finding a 170/175 for that money. But around here you can find a D17. Probably won't be a series IV but would still work fine for what you are doing. We have both a 175 diesel and D17 IV. They both have their place but I prefer the 17. Another thing to think about is the wiring on a 175 is kind of funky and is problematic. D17 is very simple. But I don't think you can go wrong either way. Good luck. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:16am
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If you want better hydralics, you have two options. The Series IV was the best from the factory, but those tractors demand a premium price, still cheaper than a 170 175 in most cases apples to apples when talking condition. The other option would be to put a front mounted pump on, and build the better hydraulics, which depending on your abilities in the shop and availability of tools/equipment to do the job, may cost you just as much as spending up on the Series IV. In my opinion there is no change in Power Directors on any of the D17 series, and even into the 170 175s. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:17am
| Thanks wekracer. Anybody know how the hydraulics were on the d17's? Like I said I'd eventually like a loader on it and I know they use to run a high pressure low volume system which didn't ever work well with most hyd cylinders. |
Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:17am
| We were typing at the same time. D17 series IV will have live full flow hydraulics. There were some other changes but that's the main thing to know. Around here they bring $1000 more than the other series. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 7:18am
| Thanks orange blood! Must have been typing at the same time. |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 9:38am
------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 11:09am
| I saw someone mention an Oliver 1555. That brings me to a general point: The Allis tractors I've seen have a far lower engine RPM speed to run the PTO than an Oliver. On our White, IIRC the PTO speed is 2200 RPM. I like Oliver-White tractors, but for this, I think you'd be using more fuel to bale. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 12:56pm
| Thanks matador. And allisfreak I thought that's the way they were. The flat platform didn't come until the 190's correct? |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 3:05pm
My 1550 isn't any harder on gas than a D17. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 9:06pm
| Although I really do like the Oliver's and would consider them. My wife on the other hand has a no green policy. A strict one at that lol! |
Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 11:30pm
| How bout a gas 180. platform height is in between a 175 and a 190. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 5:02am
| Problem I seem to be having is hitting my budget I set once we get into the hundred series tractors. |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 5:20am
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We used a WD and it worked just fine. Sure, a tractor with more gears would have an optimum speed for varying conditions, but you can ride the hand clutch when necessary. Unless you are custom baling a large amount of hay there's no need to spend well into the middle of four figures for a tractor. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 6:49am
| If your budget is that tight, why don't you just use your 190? Maybe save a few bucks for a few years and get something additional. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 6:52am
| I don't mind using the 190 on the square baler but it's honestly a little big to be using on the rake in my opinion. Not to mention there has been more than once now while I'm baling we are racing rain and switching back and forth between balers to fill orders for squares vs rounds gets old fast. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 10:04am
| I realy liked Raking with a WD45. It handled a NH 268 very nicely. but it would be a misrable Baling tractor with a loader installed. There cheep enought I only paid $800 for my last one. it the tractor I use the most very handy size cheep to operate and Wheels and tire are about all I have into it. Starts real well in the winter and without weights it light enough to drive on my grass without tearing it up. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 12:16pm
CA is a good raking AC tractor and easy on gas.I hate switching implements back and forth when I'm making hay I have 2 tractors with balers hooked to them ready to go,3 if I'm using the D15 to square bale,2 tractors with rakes and 2 tractors with mowers hooked to them.Then there are the spare tractors(LOL) |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 2:49pm
| Just over wind the pto and it will do a better job tyeing the bales. Set the throttle at pto speed and not over. |
Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 2:52pm
| We used a D-15 series 2 on a NH 273 baler for years and loved it. If you want a few more ponies I would just step up to a d-17 or a 175. Personally, I would never go away from the power director, love it when square baling. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 3:06pm
I had a wd45 with swartz loader and 7ft bucket and used it for everything, cutting, raking, baling? never had a problem. the only problem was it was a gas hog! but it was a heck of a lot better than trying to bale with my 8n. get yourself an under horse power machine, it'll make ya appreciate what ever ya buy next....  I vote late version d17 or simler, if ya gotta wait till ya save some cash do that. don't settle for some thing ya might end up regretting later. just my opinion, dt ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 3:39pm
| It's not that we can't afford to spend more it's the fact that we've gotten great deals on all of our equipment so it's just hard to spend a ton on a smaller tractor when I didn't have much into my XT. And it had near new Goodyear's on the rear. I talked with Ryan Winter and I will be going to his place this weekend to look at some d17's. How are the power steering systems on them? I love the power of the Hyd steering on the 190 while moving bales with the loader. And I know the wife does as well! Just curious how well the d series steering worked with a loader hung on the front? |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 3:47pm
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If I ever get the loader finished on my d14 I'll let ya know how the steering is...lol
------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 3:48pm
| Lol thanks! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 4:15pm
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If you're expecting the PS on a D series to be like a 180,185 or 190 you'll be disappointed,its pretty good on my D19 and D15 but not nearly as good as my 180,185 and 190XT.The difference is the later tractors have hydrastatic steering not power steering big difference.My Oliver 1550s and 1600 have hydrastatic steering its almost as good as the 180 etc.Another tractor I have thats a good all around utility tractor is the International 464 Industrial 8 forward speeds,very good hyro steering,hydraulic controlled LPTO,very strong 3pt hitch. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 5:23pm
| Thanks Gary! All of this info helps me out I really appreciate it. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 7:15pm
That is what makes the 170/175 feel like a smaller tractor than the D17, the hydrostatic power steering....and the power director is not as jumpy as the 180-200's since it is mechanical and not hydraulic. And, if you have a low battery you can pull start them where you can't with the 180-200's. ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 8:53pm
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Spend the extra money and buy a 6080! We store the square baler in a short shed pull it out with the D17 unhook it, hook the 6080 to it to bale, then unhook it and back it back in with the D17. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 9:54pm
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Worrying about how much gas one tractor uses and buying another more fuel-efficient one is like spending $30,000 for a new car that gets 5 MPG more. You'll never recover the extra expense through saved fuel costs. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 4:30am
the wd 45 didn't use much gas baling, we did about 300 bales. but cutting, I swear every lap around the field I had to stop and fill up.....lol we used a 5ft brush hog. I love a fuel sipping diesel, but if your only using it for baling, I don't know that it's worth the extra cash to get one. a friend had a case with case o matic drive, he would warm it up for about 45 mins and it still didn't want to go in gear, ended up breaking the shifter off trying to jam it in gear. I'm not bashing case, just saying what I saw. the tractor is now parked in the back of his field rusting away. ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 7:37am
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Good grief! Making 200 square bales a year and switching implements back and forth is so miserable??? Wow. I don't have big equipment, and 200 bales of hay is what, about 70 minutes of work if you go slow and take a long water break between loads. Hahahaha |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 7:44am
| Haha I know I know. But it's usually like 50 in each cutting meaning every cutting I'm back and forth between the round and the square baler. I like to open the field with rounds then make just what I need in squares then finish in roumds. So with one tractor it's a lot of back and forth |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 8:20am
| Gerkendave, did you get the PM I sent you. ..? Darrel |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 8:45am
| Yes I did Darrel. That's a really nice looking tractor but I noticed they said it didn't have a three point? That is one thing we'll need for grading snow and driveway and moving rounds. If it had that it'd be a perfect little rig! |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 8:55am
I wish took all afternoon. by the time I baled it. parked the tractor, got the truck and went through the fields picking them up. load the truck, drive to the barn unload it, back to the field, load the truck, etc.!! ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 9:54am
Yeah, understand. My example is 2 people. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 10:01am
had the wife help, except she ways 100lbs and came to the field in shorts and a tank top. didn't last long and she had to quit, apparently hay makes ya itchy.... ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 10:03am
Haha sounds like my wife! I think she does it just so she gets put on the tractor to drive! |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 10:05am
| So I'm seeing now some d17's have a hydraulic pump mounted where the belt pulley would have gone. Is this a good setup or does this not gain you live hydraulics? |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 11:40am
| Hmmm....well, a 100 pound female and I could have 250 bales under shelter in close to an hours time, biggest factor being a decent hay crop. Not unloaded, but in out of a pending rain. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 2:11pm
Those are the Series IV tractors, and they give you live hydraulics, just as you want! ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 4:09pm
The wife refused to run the wd45, she couldn't reach the pedals... ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 6:44pm
| Orange blood. Was it possible to add that to an earlier series? Only reason I ask is I see one coming up for auction that has it mounted like that but it says it's a series 2 (or 3 I don't remember for sure) but either way I know it didn't say series 4. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 7:08pm
No, you would have to change the Torque tube, there is more than just a pump there. The clutch has two sets of splines one on the clutch disc, and one on the pressure plate, then a hollow shaft around the input shaft, you get the idea. Not to mention all the plumbing changes. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 8:15pm
| So a better chance someone switched hoods then? |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 8:52pm
Quite likley. Check that you have a hydraulic console on the operators RIGHT side, not the LEFT. That will confirm your thoughts. Series I,II, and III, hydraulics IF any are on the left, with a control lever on the steering console. Series IV, hydraulics on the right for sure, and only a throttle on the steering console. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 9:08pm
| d-17 deisel without a doubt the best , power , gets around tight windrows good, work that power director through heavey to light hay, not to big not to small |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 9:21pm
| Thanks orange blood! And hudco I thought the 17 diesels were hard to find parts for? |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 8:01am
You can get parts but if the engine needs work it gets pricey fast. D-17 series IV is a good choice. We do about 2000 bales a year and use the following tractors. CA to rake D-14 to cut D-15 to bale Just remember that you don't need a lot of horsepower to run a baler. We used the CA for over 10 years to do all our farming needs. http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/CuttingHay2.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/cuttingHay.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/CArakinghay.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/303balerAllisgearandCA_edited-1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/Pulling62Plow.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/408footdisc.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/combiningBeans.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/CA%20Working%20Pictures/DSC00092.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Not saying that a CA is the best choice, just showing smaller hp is still very useful. Take a look at my videos as I have a few on baling. http://www.youtube.com/user/The1952caallis/videos" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/The1952caallis/videos ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 8:57pm
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2-70 white. Same as a 1655 Oliver, but without the green paint the Mrs. hates. :) I would ask her for a clarification on the policy. I personally take it as "F#@% John Deere" but an Ollie would be OK. :) Remind her Oliver is the correct shade of green. :) ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 8:59pm
| Lol the neighbor and I tried convincing her that Ollie green was the good green but she wasn't having it! |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 10 May 2017 at 5:47pm
| Well quick question on a d17 guys. Might be looking at a series 3 but was curious about the Hyd system on one. I know they are low volume high pressure system but is the rear lift at least live? What kind of lift capacity would one have with a three point conversion? |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 10 May 2017 at 10:23pm
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As for pressure/volume, the Series IV was high vol low pressure (modern standard). All priors were high pressure/low volume, and single-acting only. If your baler and rake are just one lift cylinder, then the early systems will work (that's what grandpa had ME using anyway). As for lifting capacity, if its a rake or baler, you wouldn't be using the lift arms for that... but I built a 3-point system, and a 3-point forklift attachment for my D17... basically a steel face with standard forklift forks. I can lift much, much more than the tractor can manage without weights on the nose... a 3000lb pallet of bricks will put the nose in the air. I've never had enough ballast to keep the front wheels down, and frankly, to challenge the lift arms, I'd probably hafta get the load much, much closer to the back of the tractor to find out, but it's extremely powerful.  Yes, the lift is SORTA live. The way Allis configured it on the 1-3's, is that engine clutch, then hydraulic pump and PTO, then Power Director and transmission, then rearend. To have the 'live' action, just leave the clutch out, and clutch the driveline with the power director. If you're baling hay, and the baler gets a little overloaded, move power director to neutral, or pull it down to LOW, let it catch up, then re-engage it accordingly.  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 11 May 2017 at 5:01am
| Thanks Dave! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 11 May 2017 at 8:57am
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My grandfather referred to the D17 as the 'best hay-making tractor ever designed', and there's probably many more reasons, but he traded his WD45 for it in '59, and he generally didn't trade machines off. The ergonomics of the D17 was probably every bit as responsible for his naming it, as anything else. The seat flips rearward two ways, and that leaves room for operator to stand on the right side footwell, facing left, and operating the steering wheel and power director with right hand, but having clear view of the rear activities looking to your left. IIRC the baler we used was a New Holland, and the pickup was to the right side, so not exactly optimal for standing facing left, but I never found myself uncomfortable with the pickup inlet being on that side. It's been a LONG time since I used that rig (almost three decades), but I recall that standing sideways on that platform made it really easy to watch what was happening on the hayrack and that big flywheel swinging on the end of the PTO shaft. For raking, though, the position couldn't have been better. Grandpa had a side-delivery Allis rake, and it directed to the left side, so when standing on the side platform, I could see every inch of that rake, and (as long as he wasn't standing on the other platform yelling in my ear), I could see the hitch swing towards the tires as I made my turns. In the case of both implements, the power director in my right hand, being able to pick between high, neutral, and low, with the PTO and hydraulics still active, plus power steering and the ability to go from seated, to side-standing position, and back with no effort, got me thinking that running implements with a tractor was easy. Of course, I've run many other pieces of machinery since then, and have found that there's many other machines, and some did some things better, some not so much. I haven't used them all, but I'll agree with my Grandfather, that the D17 was really well suited to baling hay. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 11 May 2017 at 9:54am
| That honestly will be the main use of this tractor. I've got a nearly N.O.S. New Holland 269 ( gentleman bought it new used a couple years on just a few acres of alfalfa then put it away in the quonset until I pulled it out and went over it last year). Otherwise it'll be used for spreading manure raking hay moving equipment in and out of buildings etc. My hope was to find a series iv just so I had the easy option of installing a nice QT loader some day to aid in winter feeding of round bales. But worse case scenario I have been following the live hyd installation on a d15 on this forum and that is something I could do at a later date if need be. |
Posted By: Robert Musgrave
Date Posted: 11 May 2017 at 1:25pm
| We used a WD-45 on a New Holland Super 68 baler pulling 16' hay rack. Tractor handled it fine; but we were in "table-top" flat NW Ohio. Typically used a Model B oR WD on the hay rake--they were steel-wheeled ground driven. Once in awhile the D-17 Gas would be put in front of the baler. R. Musgrave |
Posted By: gerkendave
Date Posted: 11 May 2017 at 2:01pm
| Thanks Robert! I grew up using a WD in front of a JD 14T square baler and although a nice little baling tractor I am leaning towards something with enough hp that in a worse case scenario could run the round baler... Albeit not really desirable it could do it |