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Topic: Turbo A Stock C?
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Subject: Turbo A Stock C?
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 3:48pm
My 9 year old wants to turbo a C so bad he can taste it. Will be picking up a project C this spring. I know Paul has his turboed CA. This will be more of a play toy than puller. Stock cubes, stock RPM's. Haven't done a lot of research, but it looks like a Garret GT12 would be about right. Really only want 5-10 lbs of boost. Maybe shoot for 30 horse vs the stock 23ish. I know I'd need to fab a manifold, probably make the oil pan bigger, find a way to feed oil to it, and try to figure out which carb is going to work the best. I suppose I could always contact Keystone and see if they could do something, but I'm up for the challenge of doing it myself.
AaronSEIA



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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2017 at 12:44pm
I saw your thread, and I'm interested in turbo'ing my B. I''d like to leave it mostly stock. It has CA pistons and a D14 carb right now, but I'd like to try to get at least 30 horse out of it. Anyone have any advice? Thanks


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 3:34pm
I would not install a turbo w/o minimum oil pressure of  35-40 psi for the turbo to live. That is going to be hard to do with a B/C block with the oil flow needed.   The manifolds could be hogged out and fitted w/flanges, modified, but are the least of your worry with rods- rod bearings that are not pressure lubed...  belt driven oil pump?  10# boost is dangerous IMHO  probably 2-3# will obtain your goal , short tem..  

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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 5:29am
This may just be a pipe dream. Certainly the oil pan will need to be made bigger. Oil for the turbo would be supplied by some kind of pump, probably mechanical, but I have seen electric pumps used as well. 3-5 lbs would be fine with me. Is it possible to pressure lube the crank? Did the later D small engines use full pressure lube? I'm not after power, just foolishly spending money to make a 10 year old boy grin when she's on the dyno.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by tbran tbran wrote:

I would not install a turbo w/o minimum oil pressure of  35-40 psi for the turbo to live. That is going to be hard to do with a B/C block with the oil flow needed.   The manifolds could be hogged out and fitted w/flanges, modified, but are the least of your worry with rods- rod bearings that are not pressure lubed...  belt driven oil pump?  10# boost is dangerous IMHO  probably 2-3# will obtain your goal , short tem..  

I would not even try to turbo a BE/CE block for all the reasons above. I have done it on the smaller D series block, with the full flow filtering oil system. This block has lots of advantages and address all of the BE/CE shortcomings.  Here is a picture of my setup, which I would consider selling. If either of you is truly interest send me PM with your email address. I can send you more details and pictures. I have also used a reworked P/S pump to have about 50 psi in the entire oiling system.
 


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If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 6:27pm
I would buy him safety glasses and ear muffs...  :-)   better check out the psi required to run a turbo... and Paulb that took some TIME - good looking job.  what is the waste gate set at and what kind of HP did you get.   The turbo was off a?

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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..


Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2017 at 7:13pm
Thinking the plan is dead. May try to find a styled WC and a Keystone kit. Or...The kid thinks a diesel C would be pretty cool. Never know around here.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 12:05am
put a 4cyl' turbo gm motor in. with picker side tin on it



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