B belly mower questions
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Topic: B belly mower questions
Posted By: Darkgeneral
Subject: B belly mower questions
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 12:37pm
I recently bought a 1949 B wide front with a belly mower for $550. I'm not sure what make the mower is, but it has been poorly added onto the tractor. I have found a Woods manual that shows how the belly's were mounted to the B, C, & CA. My questions and concerns are easy I believe, but I want to get this right before I need it and I have to back up. First concern is that the prior owner had the main drive belt running off of the rear PTO output not the side as Woods shows. My plan is to correct and go back to the side if I can locate a pulley. My question on that is are both tension pulleys V or should one be flat? Second question. Woods also shows the lift cylinder and bracket going to the front with a triangle to lift the mower. My cylinder goes to the rear for rear mount attachments. There is an additional arm now going down to a rod that goes forward. All of my deck lift is mounted to the tractor itself. So as the rod pulls one arm, a second arm pulls the chains up. Has anyone seen this setup? Lastly, the mower us set up so the V of the deck is facing toward the front of the tractor. Every one I see on line is set up the other way with the flat front and V to the back. Will this make a difference. Thanks for the input
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Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 1:14pm
| Both of mine have Woods 59's on them with Woods factory hand lifts.----Also have them on 3 of the C tractors, so I would say it be a woods 59! all tightener pulleys are v-type . mine all drive off the side of pto thanks; ac fleet |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 3:07pm
| All the pulleys on a woods are v belt pulleys. That is not a woods deck.it actually looks to be a shop made unit. |
Posted By: farmtoybuilder
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 3:15pm
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You don't have a woods mower. Looks like a sun master? Woods uses 1 long drive belt also! and pulley arrangement is different. ------------- 5 different TT-10's,5 TT-18's Terra Tigers,B-10,2 B-207's,B-110,2 B-112's,HB-112,B-210,B-212,HB212,2 Scamp's & Homilite T-10. Still hunting NICE HB-112 & anything Terra Tiger & Trailers for them. |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 3:18pm
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I don't think it is Woods either. Woods don't have caster wheels that nice. We have a Woods on the D15 II and a C. The D15 has a big pulley that bolts onto the PTO shaft. The C drives off of the belt pulley shaft. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: Darkgeneral
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 3:23pm
| I replaced the caster wheels. The old ones were shot. I don't really care if it is a Woods or not as long as it works in the end. Does it matter though which way it is facing? All of them I see has the flat to the front and the point to the rear. It also looks to be able to throw to either side. |
Posted By: Larry in NC
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 3:34pm
| Woods mowers have the flat side to the front. This one seems to be made differently. The wheels are needed in the front to keep the mower from scraping. |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 4:15pm
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A Woods Mower. Old pictures from my site. Not sure if they will help answer your questions. Both mowers are Woods 59 with one being a L 59. 
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Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 9:59pm
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Looks like a Woods 59 or L59 put on backwards with a lot of customization. ------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 4:27am
That would be my guess. Over size out of round holes for both the spindles and spindle bolts. The slanted edge is bent 90ยบ down rather than flared.
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Dakota Dave wrote:Posted By: Darkgeneral
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 6:54am
| Would it be beneficial if I turned it around? The pieces that hold the casters is just angle iron that is bolted on. I could unbolt and rotate it. That would put my main drive belt closer to the PTO drive or do you think it will make any difference? |
Posted By: Darkgeneral
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 6:55am
| For some odd reason, I cannot see your pictures. Is there a setting I need to change? |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 7:22am
| I don't think turning it around will make any differance. The leading edge looks to be straight down we can't see the trailing edge in you photo. The woods decks are designed to be used with the end plates installed. The leading edge bends under and the side plates contain the clippings so they get cut a couple times and the trailing edge flails back to spread the clippings over the entire width behind. That is why a woods finish mower leaves such a nice cut. Your mower mounts under the tractor and has three blades those are its only similarity so to a woods. Your mower looks to be made to install the way you have it. Moving your main pulley rearward will shorten the distance you have to make the belt direction change and twist. The longer distance you have to accomplish that the better chance you have of making it work. |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 9:41am
I don't know what you are seeing. Sometimes if there is an x you can right click on it and select properties. Then paste the properties above to see the pictures. If you can not get them send me a PM and I will send you the links.
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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 11:33am
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Here is a link that you can wonder around in and find Woods mower pictures here and there. Unorganized as my life has always been.
http://public.fotki.com/DickL/tractor_parts/allis_chalmers_b_c/page11.html" rel="nofollow - http://public.fotki.com/DickL/tractor_parts/allis_chalmers_b_c/page11.html
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Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 12:48pm
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The nice thing about Woods is you can get any manual for free, and they still make parts for all there mowers. It would not be difficult to find a Woods L59 and save a bunch of work. In my area I see them on CL frequently. I like your rear tires by the way! ------------- Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152 |