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Topic: What all did allis charmers make?
Posted By: gh-in-oh
Subject: What all did allis charmers make?
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 5:46pm
Ok I know allis was in the ag line.   Reading post below about golf carts and chain saws got me wondering what else were they making. If anyone can provide a list, I would appreciate it.   Thanks



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Posted By: Jason in MO
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 5:49pm
I know that during WW2 they made generators for the navy. I also believed that they may have made electrical switchgear as well.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 5:56pm
Get a copy of C.H. Wendell's book, The Allis Chalmers Story.  Sure will save a lot of bandwidth...Wink


Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:06pm
They made a little bit of everything, construction equipment, lawn and garden,refrigerators,home furnaces, mining equipment,military equipment, electrical equipment,golf carts,mini bikes,turbines,pumps and on and on. A book by C.H. Wendell called The Allis-Chalmers Story mentions a lot of the stuff they made.


Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:06pm
Haha, Dave beat me to it.


Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:25pm
Just about anything you can think of. The Allis Chalmers story is a great book!


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:29pm
I do not know what Allis Charmers made, but Allis ChaLmers made stuff that Grinder mentioned (and then some).

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:55pm
At one time Allis-Chalmers could make an entire loaf of bread from the ground to the finished product...

Plus one more try to find a copy of C.H. Wendel's book.

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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 8:05pm
Allis Chalmers manufactured generators & turbines for many water Dam projects that are still in use today.


Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 8:58pm
Hey gh-in-oh, would you edit the title of your post, it hurts my eyes to read it.
There's a "The Allis Chalmers Story" book on eBay now for $750 obo in case you really have to have one.


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:15pm
LOL


Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:48pm
I saw on the History channel once that they also made parts for the B17 during WWII.


Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:50pm
candy makers, water softeners, furnaces, electrical motors, mill stones the list is to great. I would be easier to say any thing from A-Z.   

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Posted By: Allis Gal
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 10:23pm
The "Allis Chalmers Story" book on Amazon - paperback from $48


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 10:58pm
Yup at one time they were into just about everything you could emagine. Fridge in your house to the kiln at the cement plant, the sprinkler in your lawn to the pumps in the sewers. And then some.


Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 11:19pm


     They invented the multiple V belt that revolutionized weaving cloth and manufacturing grain products.
     Before the V-belt manufacturers used line drive shafts with pulleys that drove flat belts  that flapped and jerked. They had one large unreliable motor.  That broke threads and made weaving threads for cloth a nightmare. With the V- belt and individual electric motors that revolutionized the manufacturing process.

                  Harold


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:20am
While we're generally all enthusiasts of Allis-Chalmers' farm equipment and construction equipment, it, and everything related, was actually more of a 'side avocation' to A-C.

Let's start with steam engines... from an industrial perspective, Most that AC made were considered 'medium sized'... aka 'under 2000hp', but they made larger. Most of the steam, gas, and water turbines that generate the power to run your computer, including those found in nuclear power facilities, were produced by Allis-Chalmers. The transformers on the pole outside your window... the pole-top switches, the distribution and transmission substations, capacitor banks, current measurement transformers, potential transformers, rotary and static VAR converters, and the huge generators, exciters, and other equipment that makes large-volume generation possible... all wore the AC badge. Tour any of the Dams along the Colorado River, or the Tennessee Valley, and you'll see the AC badge. Great big roller gats for the nation's navigable rivers... yep, by AC.

They poured engine blocks using the 'leftover' scraps of much, much larger pours. There were some incredible industrial engineers there...

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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:58am
It's a shame that a company that could produce all the stuff to help mankind, have paying jobs where people could care for themselves instead of just barely scraping by be raped of their capital and sent overseas. I would imagine that the big wigs of the company didn't get hurt tho.


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 5:55am
At one time Allis-Chalmers had 90% of the flour milling and flaking equipment market, built large ore crushers, ball mills, kilns (everything for the cement industry) portable gravel crushers, all things electrical (generation and transmission) construction (HD-41 was the worlds largest bulldozer at the time), mine hoists, pumps, forklifts, railway equipment.
They may still be here if they hadn't bled off profits from the ag division to prop up other money losers.


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Posted By: gh-in-oh
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:23am
Oh gosh.   I did not know it was chalmers.   I have only had two of them for 45 years.    Lol. Sorry about the typo. And thanks for the replies/book suggestion.   Ya all have a merry Christmas.   


Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:46am
I found this on display at a historic mining site in my town. Rock crusher

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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:53am

Oh Gosh

- and a member for only 6 years - and 47 Posts ??


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 7:39am
May I ask what is your home town?

Dusty


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Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:05am
Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:

May I ask what is your home town?

Dusty


If you were asking about my post with the mine rock crusher I am in Negaunee, MI. In the UP, little town by Marquette.


Posted By: gh-in-oh
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:08am
Sorry Gary.   Love the site and all the information.   Just don't have a whole lot of knowledge to share compared to most on this site.   Plus I obviously can't spell very well.   đŸ˜œ


Posted By: Bob J Wi
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:19pm
AC also made two snowmobiles. One is on
display at the snowmobile museum in
Naubinway Mi.


Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:59pm
Allis pretty much made everything at one point


Posted By: 190xt
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:31pm
I work on fire pumps. I know they made those.


Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:


Oh Gosh

- and a member for only 6 years - and 47 Posts ??
Not meaning to jump on Gary and sure he didn't mean any harm. It's just not a good reply to post.

 This is the type of comments that makes peoples leave this great site. I have been close to leaving  a few times as well.  You sure what you know and have done just for someone to accuse you of lying or stretching the truth. This is why I started to add pictures and videos. 
Everyone on this site has different knowledge and experiences. Some are just learning to walk and others are running marathons. We need to treat everyone with understanding and respect so we all have positive experiences.
Why is it that some people think their better or more entitled than others?



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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 7:51pm

Big Allis,.......... formally known as Ravenswood No. 3, is a giant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power" rel="nofollow - electric power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_generator" rel="nofollow - generator originally commissioned by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Edison" rel="nofollow - Consolidated Edison Company (ConEd) and built by the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allis-Chalmers" rel="nofollow - Allis-Chalmers Corporation in 1965. Currently owned by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcanada_Corp." rel="nofollow - Transcanada Corp. , it is located on 36th Avenue and Vernon Boulevard in western https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens,_New_York" rel="nofollow - Queens, New York . Its main fuel is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas" rel="nofollow - natural gas .

During 1963, Allis-Chalmers announced that ConEd had ordered the "world’s first MILLION-KILOWATT unit...big enough to serve 3,000,000 people." This sheer scale helped the plant become popularly known as "Big Allis".

At the time of its installation, it was the world's largest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_power_station" rel="nofollow - steam energy generating facility


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:01pm
41B dozer... made from 1969 to about 1985
 


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Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:03pm
Just about everything at the nuclear gaseous diffusion plant I worked at had a AC tag or emblem on it and I imagine that goes for the other 2 plants as well! It is a shame that all 3 plants are now shut down yet Russia, Iran, North Korea all still enrich Uranium!


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:07pm

http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/index.php?id=157" rel="nofollow - Allis-Chalmers Âť 460 / 562

(1962 - 1973)

In 1962, Allis-Chalmers began to expand its motor scraper line in a big way. It launched two of the largest scrapers it ever made, the models 460 and 562 of 32 and 40 cubic yards of heaped capacity. Model 460 is topped out the Allis-Chalmers single-engine motor scraper line. The 562 was a twin-engined giant with engines in front and rear that totaled 730 horsepower, and weighing 51 tons. It featured a modular concept so that the scraper could be operated with or without rear engine module. The model 562 received an upgrade in 1965, with bowl capacity increased to 44 cubic yards heaped and weight increased to 61 tons, but the 562 was discontinued the following year. The model 460 has a longer life. In 1965 it was upgraded to the version 460B, and then in 1968 it received GM Detroit Diesel engine and index 460C. It was withdrawn in 1973.



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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:54pm
With Pop we used to tour hydroelectric power plants.  From Conowingo Dam on the
Susquehanna in Maryland, to Niagara Falls  hydroelectric power plant - both American and Canadian, to the "smaller" hydroelectric power plants in New England.  All we had to say was that we were from Allis Chalmers.  Believe it or not in Conowingo Dam I was standing on the penstock below the huge running generator or in Niagara Falls right next to the penstocks - made by Allis Chalmers.  The generators in almost every plant were made by Allis Chalmers.  In fact I remember a thread on this forum years ago that showed an Allis Chalmers plate on a hydro generator in Iraq 
In their time they were a powerhouse in the electric generation field along with just about every other large industrial field.
Get Wendel's book.  It will open your eyes.
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: Allen Dilg
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 9:31pm
  One more   prime contractors for the Manhatten project


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 11:39pm
The y-12 plant at ONRL is an electromagnetic separation process, and as such, required a tremendous amount of electrical power, and of course, supporting infrastructure. Since this was their specialty, it only makes sense that they were involved. It's probably not likely that they had any idea what their equipment was being used for.

A good read re. the Manhattan Project, is "Tuxedo Park: A wall street tycoon Wall Street Tycoon and the Secret Palace of Science That Changed the Course of World War II" by Alfred Lee Loomis's niece Jennet Conant. Some reviewers of the book (those that didn't actually 'read' the book' label Loomis as 'eccentric'... but the case was quite opposite. Many believe that the 'Manhattan Project' was a 'government' program, The bulk of it actually wasn't... a very fascinating story.

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 6:29am
Many of the water a sewer systems in large cities were built by Allis.
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Riverwest’s hidden landmark

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This massive brick structure on the bank of the Milwaukee River in Riverwest is part of the city’s water utility. When it entered service in 1924, its massive pumps set a world record. Carl A. Swanson photo

On a stretch of the Milwaukee River once home to both https://milwaukeenotebook.com/2014/11/21/milwaukees-up-river-icehouses/" rel="nofollow - ice houses and a  https://milwaukeenotebook.com/2014/06/28/river-colony-milwaukees-lost-neighborhood/" rel="nofollow - lost neighborhood , only one structure remains – a five-story-tall, windowless brick building. Although well maintained and surrounded by neatly mown lawn, no sign identifies it and its purpose isn’t immediately obvious.

Here, at the foot of East Chambers Street in Riverwest, the city built a record-setting engineering landmark. This 92-year-old building is the Milwaukee Water Works Riverside Pumping Station.

Locator map of pumping station

Riverside Pumping Station occupies the east end of a much larger parcel of land. The part not needed by the Water Works became Pumping Station Park and now is maintained by Milwaukee Public Schools. Because city dollars had been used to purchase the land, lawmakers were reluctant to allow it to become a Milwaukee County-owned park.

Milwaukee′s water supply has been drawn from Lake Michigan since 1874. The North Point Pumping Station was built at the foot of North Avenue on the lake shore to pull water from a tunnel extending 2,100 feet out into the lake. In 1895, a second, longer intake was built, a project marred by an accident that https://milwaukeenotebook.com/2015/11/06/milwaukee-crib-diaster/" rel="nofollow - killed 14 tunnel workers. A decade later, an entirely new intake was under construction, 12-feet in diameter and stretching 6,553 feet into the lake.

Although the eight steam-powered pumps at the North Point Station could deliver 126 million gallons of drinking water each day, by 1918 it was clear the rapidly growing city needed a second major pumping station.

River pumping station flood wall

In 1920, building this flood wall was the first stage in the construction of the pumping station. Carl A. Swanson photo

In 1921, work on the Riverside Pumping Station started with the construction of a floodwall, built two feet higher than the maximum recorded flood level. At the same time, a nine-foot-diameter, 7,000-foot-long tunnel was excavated from the lake front to the new station.

According to Elmer W. Becker′s A Century of Milwaukee Water, city engineers disagreed over the pumps to be installed in the new plant. Many favored centrifugal pumps, then a relatively new technology rapidly gaining favor.

Ultimately the decision was made to order somewhat old-fashioned but well-proven vertical triple expansion pumps. This decision, Becker believes, was influenced by the city’s favored machinery contractor, Allis-Chalmers.

River pumping station steam engine

When this colossal steam-driven pump entered service in the early 1920s it set a world record for pumping efficiency. Milwaukee Water Works photo

Three of the gigantic pumps, powered by superheated steam supplied by three coal-fired boilers, were installed in the 59,000-square-foot brick structure.

On July 1, 1924, pump no. 1, with a daily capacity of 22 million gallons, went into service. The five-story-tall Allis-Chalmers machine was so perfectly balanced its 100-tons of moving parts operated in eerie silence, save only for the faint, rhythmic clicking of steam valves opening and closing.

Tests showed pump no. 1 generated 214.5 million pounds of work for every 1,000 pounds of steam it used, setting a new world record for pumping engine economy. Pump no. 2 was not far behind at 213.2 million pounds of work per 1,000 pounds of steam.

Milwaukee′s brand-new Riverside Pumping Station was second to none, and the city was happy to show it off. A visitor′s gallery was included in the station’s design, and a switch-back sidewalk led down the 90-foot-tall river bluff from Pumping Station Park. In addition to the gigantic boilers and pumps, visitors could see offices, steam-powered generators for the in-house electrical system, automated coal- and ash-handling equipment, and a state-of-the-art machine shop.

https://milwaukeenotebook.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/chlorine_house.jpg" rel="nofollow">River pumping station chlorine house

This tidy little brick building is the pumping station’s former chlorine house. Chlorine gas was once injected into the incoming water supply for extra purification. Today all water treatment is handled by the city’s two filtration plants. Carl A. Swanson photo

A fourth pump, rated at 25 million gallons per day, was added in 1927, along with three additional boilers. The following year, a 40 million gallon per day steam turbine centrifugal pump entered service, and the city announced it had all the capacity it needed to meet demand for the foreseeable future.

The â€œforeseeable future,” Becker noted, proved to be just three years, because that′s when the city ordered a sixth pump, a centrifugal type delivering 60 million gallons daily. This gave Riverside Station a daily pumping capacity of 184 million gallons.

In 1937, Riverside Station narrowly escaped disaster. In that year, given the vast pumping capacity available at Riverside, the city felt safe shutting down North Point Station for extensive reconstruction.

On Sunday, February 21, 1937, after several days of heavy rain, the county dynamited ice on the Milwaukee River north of the city to prevent flooding. Huge ice chunks floating down the river backed up against the Locust Street bridge, forming a dam. Immediately water began spilling over the river banks, rising steadily higher against the station′s flood wall. Although the wall was two feet higher than the previously highest recorded flood, the river reached a point just two inches from overflowing the wall. If it topped the wall, the plant′s basement would flood, shutting down the only pumps supplying water to the entire city.

The situation was serious. Not only would a major city suddenly be without water for drinking or cooking or, well, flushing, there would be no water pressure in the fire hydrant system.

The utility rushed 1,000 sand bags to the station but they were not needed. Gradually, over the next few days, the river subsided.

Twelve years later, the station did flood. On the night of July 27, 1949, a torrential cloudburst sent a surge of storm water down the steep river bluff, bursting through the plant′s basement windows â€œlike so many Niagara falls,” night shift workers told the Milwaukee Journal.

With nearly three feet of water in its boiler and pump rooms, the plant was out of commission. The Water Works needed powerful, mobile pumps to dry out the plant – and it knew where to find them. Nine fire engines were summoned and commenced pumping out the flooded building at a combined rate of more than 9,000 gallons a minute. The station was up and running six hours after the storm.

west end of Milwaukee RIver Pumping Station

The Milwaukee River pumping station was once a tourist attraction, complete with visitor’s gallery. Today it is closed off by fences and surrounded by security cameras. The former boiler house is at right, the pump house is at left. Carl A. Swanson photo

The five-story-tall steam pumps at Riverside Station served more than 40 years. In the mid-1960s, the water utility began a modernization project, removing the coal-fired boilers and steam-driven pumps and installing electric pumps operating off a dedicated high-voltage line. At a week-long open house in 1966, thousands of Milwaukeeans filed through the station for a last look at the big steam pumps before they were scrapped.

On August 23, 1968, the fires were dropped in last two operating boilers.

Today, Riverside Station contains nine electric pumps with a combined capacity of 240 million gallons a day. The pumps are remotely controlled by operators at the Linnwood Water Treatment Plant and the Howard Avenue Water Treatment Plant.

Although the facility is more than 90 years old, it is still a major part of the city’s water infrastructure and is frequently updated. In 2011, for example, the utility completed installation of three 2,500-kW diesel generators to supply backup power to the Riverside Pumping Station in the case of a power failure. According to Water Marketing Specialist Rosalind Rouse, this was part of a multi-year project to provide electric power generation for five critical infrastructure sites. Currently, the utility is in the midst of a project to replace the access road and improve flood protection at Riverside.

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Milwaukee scrapped its triple-expansion steam pumps, but a similar machine exists in the United Kingdom. It has been restored and is occasionally operated for visitors. For an idea of the steam days at Riverside station, watch a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuHJBIMj_rs" rel="nofollow - here.


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Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 7:07am
As you can see there is a generous knowledge of great information on here about the one thing we all have in common. If you have not attended a "Gathering Of The Orange" before I would advise planing a trip soon. There is also a great group in Oh (Buckeye Allis club) that I'm sure would welcome you in at one of their showers. And also the A.C. Pardners in In are a purty decent bunch of folks also. Over the past 35 years I have made some lifelong friends not just on here but because of our shared love. If you are ever in East TN you are welcome to visit at my place to look at a piece of AC or 2 and gab a while , just bring your work boots. I'm sure there are others that would do the same. By the way I can't spell either . Scott

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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 12:06pm

The thing I don't understand is as big and diversified as they were how did the ag economy tanking take the whole business down?


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:25pm
They were stealing the profits from the ag division to pay off the losses in the other areas instead of selling off what should have been sold off so when the 80's rolled in they had no backup money. That's my take.


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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:27pm
here's another Allis product



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Posted By: WNeuberg53
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 2:28pm
Its amazing how diversified they were. Most of the iron mines in northern MN have Allis Chalmers equipment from the 50s/60s or even earlier still in operation. Even the amount of different types of equipment in the mines, from ball and rod mills, to kilns, crushers, giant fans, taconite coolers, tripper car systems, giant electric motors etc that Allis produced is pretty extraordinary.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 4:03pm

-I copied this off the old site several yars ago......

 
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Glen Fetty emailed this A-C timeline he made about the downfall of A-C to me several years ago. Its an interesting read:

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Before I start the timeline, let me preface it with this: I think it is appropriate to start this timeline in the 1960s, because it was during the mid-'60s that A-C was at its height. It was also at this time that the company, as a prime blue-chip industrial equipment producer, became a target for corporate takeover. ------------

1967 - James Ling, chairman of Ling-Temco-Vought Corporation(LTV), announced an offer to buy all outstanding A-C stock and make the company a part of LTV. A-C management fought this proposal and LTV eventually withdrew its offer.

1968 - A new suitor arrives on the scene: Gulf & Western Industries buys a large block of A-C stock but says it has no intentions of taking the company over. The stock price rises and falls as A-C's profits slip into the red for 1968. Gulf & Western eventually sells its stock, at a loss, to White Consolidated Industries, which then wages an all-out war for control of A-C. It was at this time that A-C management hired Colt Firearms chairman David C. Scott to turn the company around and defend it against takeover. Throughout late 1968 and all of 1969, the two companies fought in the courts, in the news media, and in mailings to A-C stockholders. The 1969 annual meeting was postponed 17 times by court order. Finally, on January 22, 1970, the 1969 annual meeting was held - without White Consolidated Industries casting the votes its block of stock wielded(by court order). During this time, A-C's monetary losses widened. It was at this time that the company decided to re-enter the steam turbine-generator market it left in 1962 by being the sales and service agent for the turbines of West Germany's Siemens AG in the United States.

1969 - A-C signs a separate agreement with West Germany's Kraftwerk Union AG, a joint-venture between West Germany's Siemens AG and AEG Telefunken to build steam turbines at West Allis. Buoyed by predictions that the electrical equipment market in the U.S. would double in the next ten years, A-C's agreement with Kraftwerk Union sets up a new company, Allis-Chalmers Power Systems, Inc. and immediately picked up five orders for new steam turbine- generators. A-C also expanded its electrical products production(transformers, transmission equipment, and the like).

1969-1971 - David Scott goes about turning the company back into a profitable one. He cut 8000 jobs(6000 were white-collar) and worked to expand markets for its goods. He also put money into modernizing some plants and shutting down others. He eliminated money-losing product lines and by 1975, the company had spent nearly $250 million modernizing its facilities. It was during this time that A-C expanded into the lawn and outdoor products business, including products such as the Terra Tiger ATV, pull-type and motorized golf carts, chain saws, and dirt bikes. In 1970, the company returned to profitability.

1971 - On June 14, 1971, the company changed its name from Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Company to Allis-Chalmers Corporation, to symbolize a new direction and a new image.

1974 - In an attempt to conserve capital, conserve manufacturing capacity, and find the money necessary to compete, Scott signs a joint-venture agreement with Italy's Fiat SpA, forming the Fiat-Allis construction equipment company. A-C did not have the equipment sales volume to peform the research, development, and marketing required to effectively compete in the heavy construction equipment business with the likes of Caterpillar and International Harvester. A-C held 35% of the stock in Fiat-Allis, and Fiat held the rest.

1975 - Crippled by new environmental regulations, higher fuel costs, and financial hard times for U.S. electrical utilities, A-C and other electrical equipment producers(most notably General Electric and Westinghouse) take a severe beating in the electrical equipment market. When A-C management saw this, they immediately moved to transfer certain areas of turbine- generator production back to Kraftwerk Union in West Germany to save money. This move put Allis-Chalmers out of steam turbine-generator production forever. (Side note: Siemens eventually purchased the share of Kraftwerk Union it didn't already own sometime in the early 1980s and absorbed it into its corporate structure. Interestingly, there is a power station not far from my house that was built in the late 1970s/early 1980s that has two Allis-Chalmers Power Systems steam turbine-generator units. Both units were originally rated at 550 megawatts; they have since been upgraded to 650 megawatts. The production plates on the generators state that they were manufactured by Kraftwerk Union, and repair parts arrive in crates labeled "Siemens-Allis". I have a few not-very-good photos, if you are interested.)

1976-1979 - The farm equipment market booms, with more and more horsepower all the rage. Machines get bigger and bigger, with no apparent end to the boom in sight. All of the farm equipment manufacturers bring in huge profits, A-C included. Annual profits climb to $58.7 million for 1977.

1978 - A-C, having had a hard time making money on its electrical distribution products, enters into a joint venture with Siemens to form Siemens-Allis. A-C placed all of its electrical products business in this venture. A-C holds 50% of the stock in the venture, with Siemens holding the rest.

1978 - A-C acquires American Air Filter, based in Louisville, Kentucky. AAF manufactures heating & air-conditioning systems and air filtration systems ranging from home furnace air filters to flyash precipitators for power stations.

1980 - A-C becomes a $2 BILLION corporation. Annual profits for 1980 were $47.6 million; however, the boom in farm equipment begins falling apart. A-C shuts down its tractor line and foundry for two months, laying off nearly 900 employees. Total company employment is 3500. A-C breaks ground at an Illinois Power Company generating station near East Alton, IL for the KILnGAS Commercial Module. KILnGAS is a subsidiary of A-C that will use ported rotary-kiln technology to take coal, turn it into a gas, and pipe it into boilers to burn for the generation of electricity. KILnGAS holds the promise of very clean-burning power stations, significantly reducing air pollution. KILnGAS also holds the promise of huge profits for A-C, as the technology, once proven and put into commercial production, will open up a market of $5 billion to $12 billion in the United States alone. The technology is slated to go into full commercial production by late 1983 or early 1984. A-C also projects a $4 billion to $6 billion annual market for KILnGAS related to the construction of new power generation plants, since the technology essentially replaces the flue-gas "scrubbers" currently used to remove pollutants from the gases released during the burning of coal.

1981 - A-C, in an effort to cut costs, begins talks with its foundry workers for a wage reduction. The union representing the workers refuses to take a pay cut. To create the savings necessary, A-C makes the difficult decision to permanently shut down its West Allis foundry - from which so much of America's industrial equipment and might originated. The foundry will be shut down by the end of 1982, and it will eventually be flattened. Interest rates on some of A-C's capital credit exceed 15%. All production was cut; more layoffs occurred, reducing total hourly employment to 1600. A-C lost $28.8 million for the year. A-C sells 35% of its interest in Siemens-Allis to Siemens, reducing its stake in the joint-venture to 15%.

1982 - Interest rates continue to pummell the American economy and especially industry. The nature of A-C's businesses require large outlays of capital to build the equipment it sells; that capital is generally provide by banks(such a business is called "capital-intensive"). In response to the Federal Reserve's interest rate increases to combat inflation, the banks raise rates for its loan holders, with the interest rates in some cases exceeding 20%. This absolutely kills the capital-intensive corporations, including A-C, IH, Deere, Caterpillar, Ford, and other industrial giants. A-C cuts hourly employment by 150 more employees. The company loses over $200 million for the year. A-C introduces its 8000-series line of large farm equipment, and construction continues on the KILnGAS Commercial Module.

1983 - David C. Scott, unable to turn the company around, resigns his position as chairman of the board and is replaced by Wendell Bueche. The company posted another huge loss exceeding $130 million. A group of managers in the A-C Simplicity lawn-and-garden subsidiary, along with an investment group of Wesray Corporation, purchase Simplicity from A-C. In 1985, the part of Simplicity that Wesray owns is put into an employee stock ownership trust, resulting in Simplicity being employee-owned.

1984 - The losses continue at A-C. The company celebrates its 70th anniversary in the farm equipment business; later that year, its agricultural equipment production, including combines, comes to a screeching halt. The company posts another big loss - $103 million. In just three years, A-C has lost nearly half a billion dollars. The company is drowning in debt due to the interest rates its creditors are charging.

1985 - The sad year: on March 28, 1985, another American farm equipment manufacturer fades into history. A-C announces the sale of its agricultural equipment business to Kloeckner-Humboldt-Deutz AG of West Germany. K.H. Duetz has been in the farm equipment business for many years, and its history of engine production stretches back over 100 years to the early 1870s. Included in the sale is the Allis-Chalmers Credit Corporation and the A-C tractor assembly line at West Allis Works. In the purchase, Deutz agrees to name the new company Deutz-Allis, continue the production of A-C tractors at West Allis through the end of the year under the Deutz-Allis name, and share the profits of the new company with A-C. The purchase price is $107 million; the combined value of the agricultural equipment business and the A-C Credit Corporation is $260 million, handing A-C a $153 million loss on the sale. The company also states that it intends to terminate eleven of the forty pension plans it funds due to its inability to cover retirement costs. The termination affecting 6800 current and retired employees; A-C plans to hand the pension plans over to the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation(PBGC), an independent pension-insuring agency of the federal government. The terminated plans have a combined unfunded pension liability of nearly $200 million. The workers' union, the UAW, denounces the plan and claims the plan is in violation of its contract with A-C. On November 14, A-C announces that it has sold its remaining stake in the Fiat-Allis construction-equipment joint-venture to its partner, Fiat SpA. This sale puts A-C out of the construction-equipment business for good. On December 12, A-C announces that its KILnGAS coal-gasification technology has received congressional approval for a $14.1 million federal grant, contingent upon President Reagan's signature. This funding would continue the project into 1987. (I do not know if this was signed or not; so far, all of the information I have found seems to indicate that A-C inactivated the KILnGAS subsidiary shortly after this. I have found an EPA document from around 1989 in which a question concerning the feasibility of converting the KILnGAS Commercial Module into an incinerator is posed.)

1986 - A-C continues to downsize. It reaches a settlement with the PBGC over the termination of the 11 pension plans, agreeing to pay $37 million to the agency, with $21.2 million to be paid over ten years. Former A-C construction equipment manager W.R. Hildebrand is named president and chief operating officer of the renamed Fiat-Allis construction-equipment company; the company is now known as Fiatallis North America, or FANA. It is based in Carol Stream, IL, and is now a part of Fiatallis, the parent of FANA. A-C sold its twin office towers and parking lot at its 1126 South 70th Street headquarters in West Allis, WI to Milwaukee-based S70 Limited Partnership. A-C also sold its lift truck(forklift) business to AC Material Handling Corporation, a privately- held company. The new owners promptly move manufacturing from the plant in Matteson, IL to Columbus, OH, putting some 400 people out of work. The Matteson plant was built in the early 1970s as part of former chairman David C. Scott's reorganization of A-C. A-C also agrees to sell its York, PA hydro-turbine business to J.M. Voith GmbH of Heidenheim, West Germany. The company is still stumbling.

1987 - On February 11, it was reported that A-C intended to split itself into two separate companies as part of its turnaround effort. Chairman Wendell F. Bueche states that world markets have changed dramatically, and A-C needed to reposition itself accordingly. The breakup will create a new company, Svedala Allis AB, to be headquarted to Europe. The company will take over many aspects of A-C's mineral-handling business, including the crusher division. On March 6, A-C announces a "clean sweep" reorganization: the plan is to sell nearly the entire company, save its American Air Filter subsidiary in Louisville, KY. Included in the reorganization are plans to raise over $100 million through public financing, slashing of health benefits for current and retired employees, and conversion of its institutional debt into other financial vehicles. Sweden's Boliden AB purchases A-C's solids-processing and mineral systems operations for $90 million as part of A-C's "clean sweep". Chicago-based financier Samuel Zell makes an uninvited offer of $150 million to acquire A-C's process equipment, pump, power generation systems(I'm thinking either repair or hydro-generators), and its Stephens-Adamson bulk materials-handling subsidiary. The offer is one of many received for the four subsidiaries of A-C, and is later spurned by A-C. On June 29, 1987, A-C, along with 17 of its domestic subsidiaries, files for bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code in an effort to prevent the company from failing outright. A-C stated the bankruptcy filing was necessary because it cannot generate enough cash from its existing operations to meet its obligations, including its high debt load and its retiree health-care costs. The court would create the A-C Reorganization Trust to distribute proceeds to creditors, two trust funds to take care of health care and life insurance plans for retired employees, and another fund to take care of future product liability claims related to A-C's pre-bankruptcy operations. Four months later, an agreement was reached with 53 financial institutions to provide A-C with $63 million in financing to continue its accounts receivable; Citibank headed up the agreement, which extends to May 24, 1989. On November 10, A-C announced a reorganization plan that involves selling its remaining businesses would be sold together or individually. On December 8, A-C receives an offer from Peers & Co. to acquire all of A-C's assets for $385 million; this offer was turned down by A-C due to pending completion of the sale of its solids-processing and material-handling businesses.

1988 - A-C closes on the sale of its solids-processing and mineral systems businesses to Boliden AB of Sweden for $97.9 million. These businesses had total sales of $250 million and employed 4300 people worldwide. A-C agrees to sell its American Air Filter subsidiary to SnyderGeneral Corporation for $245 million in cash, subject to approval by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court and federal regulators. A-C announced another agreement, subject to approval by the Bankruptcy Court, to sell its power generation services operations, including a 350,000 square-foot facility(which is part of West Allis Works), to a group of the operation's managers for $14.5 million. The new company is called A-C Power Generation Services Acquisition Corp. That company, later known as A-C Equipment Services Corp., sold itself to Siemens AG in 1991. On June 23, A-C agreed to sell, pending approval, its pump business to ITT Corporation for $71 million in cash. On July 2, A-C submits its reorgan- ization plan to the bankruptcy court. It calls for the sale of A-C's main businesses and the distribution of the proceeds to creditors and the trust funds. This plan will downsize A-C from a company of 4400 employees to a company of 97 employees. The plan calls for creditors to receive between 16 and 21 cents on the dollar for claims. On July 5, A-C announces that it has sold its Stephens-Adamson bulk-materials handling business to Sweden's Trelleborg AB for $16 million. On August 5, A-C announces that it turned a $951,000 profit for the second quarter of 1988, compared to a loss of $837,000 in the same period one year earlier on flat sales of $104 million. The company shows a loss of $8.76 million, compared to $12.28 million one year earlier. The company also said it turned a $1.4 million profit for 1987 from discontinued operations. On October 12, the company receives bankruptcy court approval to sell its pump division to ITT Corporation for $71 million; the sale is completed on November 11. The Bankruptcy Court approves A-C's reorganization plan on October 31, 1988, and the bankruptcy proceedings are consummated after shareholder and creditor approval on December 2, 1988. Pur- suant to its Plan of Reorganization, A-C's stock was cancelled and new stock was issued to its stockholders. Over the next year, the members of the Board of Directors would be replaced, with some of the new members representing the interests of the trusts that were created as a result of the bankruptcy. The company's stock becomes basically worthless at $0.61/share when A-C emerges from bankruptcy.

1989 - Ever since A-C began its rapid downsizing in the early 1980s, the company had been trying to lease out empty industrial space in the West Allis plant complex; but the company had few takers. Few businesses wanted to locate in the empty shell of a dying corporation. However, the company did begin redevelopment of the complex, which over many years would finally result in the complex becoming home to dozens of small businesses. A-C itself officially turned out the lights and locked the gates to the West Allis plant on January 29, 1989 - closing out a very long and storied chapter in American industrial history. The plant and adjoining properties that had not already been sold were turned over to the A-C Reorganization Trust, which took possession and disposed of the property to satisfy creditors. The city of West Allis began a long and at times difficult redevelopment process that would come to full fruition by the late 1990s. A-C itself signed a short-term lease to maintain its corporate offices in one of its former office towers. Total company employment was less than 100, down from a peak of well over 20,000 when A-C was at its peak. On December 20, A-C acquires BRB Industries of Hoboken, NJ, a manufacturer of molded fabric for the apparel, lingerie, home sewing, and notions markets(a far cry from farm tractors and steam turbines).

1990 - A-C's Houston, Texas subsidiary, Houston Dynamic Services(or HDS), purchases a new building for operations. This subsidiary becomes the primary income-generating part of the company. HDS services and repairs various types of mechanical equipment, including compressors (centrifugal, rotary, axial and reciprocating), pumps, turbines, engines, heat exchangers, centrifuges, rollers, gears, valves, blowers, kilns, crushers, and mills. HDS's services also include emergency repair, disassembly, inspection, repair testing, parts duplication, machining, balancing, metalizing, milling, grinding, boring, welding, modification, reassembly, field machining, maintenance, alignment, field service, installation, startup and training. The company's primary market is along the Texas Gulf coast. (I do not know when A-C purchased this company; 1990 is the first reference to HDS that I have found so far.) Two of A-C's other subsidiaries, KILnGAS R&D and U.S. Fluidcarbon, have both been deactivated.

1992 - A-C's stockholders approve a 1-for-15 reverse stock split that exchanges every 15 shares of A-C stock(par value: $0.01/share) for one new share of stock(par value: $0.15/share). Occurring on July 8, the reverse split reduces A-C's total stock from 15,000,000 shares to 1,000,000 shares. The purpose of the reverse split allows the company to preserve and carry forward its substantial net operating loss, giving the company a tax advantage. The stock, however, is not traded on any stock exchange, making A-C a privately- held company for the first time in nearly 100 years.

1993 - A-C's total employment stands at 136 employees on December 31, 1993.

1994 - A-C sells its BRB Industries subsidiary on September 22, taking a loss of $2.9 million. The sale leaves HDS as the sole income-generating area of the company, save a small amount of income from investments. At the end of the year, A-C's total employment stands at 41 employees. In a development that will have a huge impact on the company in the near future, Congress passes the Retirement Income Act of 1994, pursuant to the Unites States participation in the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade(GATT). This law requires that a company's underfunded pension plan to be fully-funded at a faster rate. A-C lost $4.2 million.

1995 - Because of retirees outliving the expectations set by the A-C Consolidated Pension Plan's actuaries, the Plan experiences an $11.9 million underfunding that must be quickly refunded according to the Retirement Income Act of 1994. A-C makes a required contribution of $205,000 to the Plan as determined by the PBGC, but lacks the resources to make any more contributions. Company employment slips to 34 employees by the end of the year, and the company experiences a $1.44 million loss.

1996 - Due to the demands placed on its cash resources by the PBGC, A-C warns that it may have to file for bankruptcy protection. The company is unable to meet the funding requirements placed on it by the shortfall in the Consolidated Pension Plan. Because of the funding requirements, A-C enters into discussions with the PBGC concerning funding the Plan. Including its past-due payments to the Plan, A-C lost $1.7 million for 1996. The loss was in spite of improved financial performance from its HDS operations. Total employment at the end of the year was 44 employees.

1997 - On February 12, A-C announces that it has filed plans to terminate and turn over responsibility for its Consolidated Pension Plan to the PBGC. This "distress" termination was approved by the PBGC on September 30, with an effective termination date of April 14. The PBGC became trustee of the Plan on September 30. This discharge of responsibility for the Plan comes at a heavy price for A-C; the PBGC files a lien against the company in the amount of $67.9 million, the total amount the PBGC estimates the Plan is liable for. The lien is accounted for in a total net loss of $66,545,000(including recognition of pension expense of $65,926,000), or $66.34 per common share, in 1997. This loss is many, many times what the company is worth. In addition, the PBGC is given 35% of the Company's outstanding stock as collateral for taking over the Plan. Total employment is at 42 employees.

1998 - The HDS division continues to improve its performance with annual sales of $5.021 million. A-C actually shows a profit of $618,000, or $0.62 per share, for 1998. The company's net worth is still well in the red, with the $66.5 million dollar loss the previous year. At the end of the year, A-C employed 41 people.

1999 - The nearly 150-year story of Allis-Chalmers in Wisconsin comes to an end on January 30, when the last remaining A-C employee in West Allis closes the company's rented offices in its former West Allis office tower on South 70th Street. The last remaining employee in West Allis spends the day packing up the last remaining documents and putting them into storage; the company still gets calls from old customers seeking spare parts for long-running Allis-Chalmers machinery and equipment, as if the company never went bankrupt. A-C issues 585,000 new shares, or 35%, of stock and gives them to the PBGC, as agreed to in the termination of the Consolidated Pension Plan termination. HDS suffers a decline in annual sales of $650,000 to $4,370,000, due to low oil prices and resulting softness in the oil-related fields of refining, processing, chemicals, and petrochemical operations throughout the Gulf Coast. HDS's customers are not producing oil-related products and do not need HDS's services as much. HDS lays off employees and A-C has a total net employment of 34 people on December 31. The company shows a loss of $113,000, or $0.08 per share, for 1999.




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Posted By: gh-in-oh
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 5:28pm
Ibwd....... That was my very next question.    I knew they were big but didn't really know how big. I always thought the ag crunch of the 80's brought the company down.   Didn't realize the ag company kept them going as long as they did.   Has there ever been a company so diverse?   I really need to get the book all has suggested.    Thank you all so much for your knowledge.   I really appreciate you sharing.   


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 7:47pm
My off farm employer had Allis pumps and had 3 large kilns made by Allis Chalmers.

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Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 3:32am
At one time I think they built everything but the kitchen sink and may have dabbled in that as well.

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 4:54am
West Allis was a huge operation, I kinda think getting away from the core businesses hurt them too, but yeah again it doesn't seem right that as many businesses as they had that the Ag sector kept it all going,,, Gleaner was the big $$$$$ helper


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 9:51am
...anyone notice how gov't policy effected things?


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 11:31am
Steve, thanks for posting that, clears things up a lot.


Posted By: McAllis
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 11:09pm
CEO Scott was a major factor in the downfall of the company too.


Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 9:52am
A-C contract built a lot of machines too. They had the reputation of the place that could build anything for anyone. The West Allis Works was a facility with the capability to do just that. They were like your local welding and fabrication shop but on a global size.

I was told that all employees on the factory floor had their own caliper and micrometer. I wonder what it would take to assemble a crew of that much skilled labor in this day and age?

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Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 10:28am
I have a question. When the all crop pull type combines were made, they used numerous wooden pieces. Did Allis Chalmers have there own wood working shop facility or were the wooden parts farmed out to another company?


Posted By: ACjack
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by McAllis McAllis wrote:

CEO Scott was a major factor in the downfall of the company too.


I agree 100%


Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2016 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by Lynn Marshall Lynn Marshall wrote:

I have a question. When the all crop pull type combines were made, they used numerous wooden pieces. Did Allis Chalmers have there own wood working shop facility or were the wooden parts farmed out to another company?

As far as know they did their own wood working and assembled the straw racks at LaPorte.  
Some one tell me if I am wrong.

Jim


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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2016 at 1:36pm
Without having been there and we lost our representative recently, it is hard to know. The Allis Chalmers farm equipment divisions were not afraid to fabricate or buy pieces.  Things like wheels they nearly always bought especially implement and tractor fronts because there were (and still are) SAE standards and potentially multiple vendors so there could be competitive bidding. It hardly ever has been profitable to make your own nuts and bolts with so many vendors around, though specials might be made in the factory shop.

For wood pieces I suspect they cut the prototype pieces in the machine shop with metal cutting tools, then for initial production contracted with a local one man wood shop, then as production increased they went with a bigger wood shop that had the capacity and equipment to meet their production schedule.

Metal cutting tools even grinders cut wood, but slowly though the precision can be very fine.

Gerald J.


Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2016 at 4:36pm
I was at a software convention in Chicago around 20 years ago. We sat down to lunch and I noticed the 2 (older)guys at our table had West Allis on their name tags. I mentioned I was an Allis collector and ask if they knew anything interesting.The one thing I remember they mentioned was that Allis did have their name on womens bras. I assumed they had bought a company in that line.
   So to make your AC collection complete, you know need a AC bra.


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1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe
1951 WD, factory p.s.
1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale
2014 HD Tri Glide
2009 GMC CC SLT Dually


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2016 at 6:10pm
AC always supported the dairy industry...WinkHug


Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 8:43am
Thanks Steve, Lonn and Others.  Been on this forum since mid 90's; this is the most thorough recap that I have noticed. Definitely one for the archives. Herb(GA)



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