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Topic: bulldozers and back pain
Posted By: cowkicker
Subject: bulldozers and back pain
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 8:20pm
Anybody got an air ride seat on their dozer? If so, does it help? If yes, what brand? Haven't been on mine in 6 months. Last time I got off of it, I swore I would sell it before I would get on it again, but as usual, I've got some work to do that the helper can't handle. Any help or suggestions?



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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 10:30pm
What do know? This topic started with dozers and back pain and ended with dozers and back pain. Was it all for the same reason? Hmmmm


Posted By: HD6 Merv
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 12:24am
I was always told; if its hard on the man, then its bloody hard on the machine !
Try doing it abit more gently.

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 7:30am
I remember about 1980 that the Construction part of Allis was testing air ride and other suspension seats in the large 41B dozer for coal mines.... I though it was odd at the time... BUT I WAS 30 YEARS OLD....... Seats went over real BIG with the 50- 60 year old guys........ FIAT was a big influence at that time, and many of the tested seats were from Europe ......... don't know what difference that would make to you.. A good seat from a heavy truck would work OK.

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 7:33am
http://www.toughseats.com/Dozer_Seats_Track_Loader_Seats.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.toughseats.com/Dozer_Seats_Track_Loader_Seats.html

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2016 at 8:05am
Slow Down - watch the terrain - take the bumps and lumps slowly - look ahead of what is going on . 
 Running loader and dozers didn't bother me as far as back - the HD4 got my feet confused as far as brakes and decelerator  being brakes were together unlike HD5 with space between.
 Then only spent limited hours per day on machines - trading off with shovel - transit - or truck. 


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Posted By: 1952Dan
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 12:19pm
Not sure about dozers yet mine still in repair mode . But riding mowers I have noticed after riding my rough and tumble Craftsman My back feels fantastic after a long 4 or 5 hour ride when a total wreck before the run .But not so after riding my smoothe cub cadet . It is too easy on bumps and adds no exercise. My dozer AC mod M has a fairly square shaped seat . if it is rough I may try buying some 4 inch thick memory foam and build a seat . if it works out then have it upholstered.


Posted By: Lazyts
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 7:35pm
Suspension does help.  I found that a little softer ride helps my neck muscles, less headaches.  Our HD11 has an old truck seat- it works ok.  Dad used to have a lot of back pain- he always strapped on one of those back support deals plus added extra cushions for lumbar support when he got on the cat.  When the pain got too bad he let me operate, it was great for me as a kid anxious to learn.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by HD6 Merv HD6 Merv wrote:

I was always told; if its hard on the man, then its bloody hard on the machine !
Try doing it abit more gently.
Easily said until you actually have a bad back then you can't be gentle enough. I spent $1,200 or was it $1,300 on an air ride seat for my tractor as I was desperate for relief.

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Posted By: cowkicker
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

Originally posted by HD6 Merv HD6 Merv wrote:

I was always told; if its hard on the man, then its bloody hard on the machine !
Try doing it abit more gently.
Easily said until you actually have a bad back then you can't be gentle enough. I spent $1,200 or was it $1,300 on an air ride seat for my tractor as I was desperate for relief.

 I'm not hard on my machinery, if I was I could not run the older stuff that I do! I've had back surgery once already and I've got a lot of hard years on this body. I just want to know if anybody has tried air ride on a dozer and if it worked for them. Lonn, I feel your pain!


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 9:33pm
I bought a suspension type seat and put on my HD5 and on the FD5 - some spring give in suspension and adjustable for weight but not a air ride seat . 
 On the HD5 I used a bucket seat from a Chev Pickup for years - the high back worked well when dozing but for loader it is all short work and hand busy so not much setting back and riding ..


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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."


Posted By: Orange4ever
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 4:52am
This is Thomas dad . you have a dozer blade use it ! smooth off A spot . if it's a rough ride it's the operator! use the blade to make you a smooth spot. started at this spot and work your way out . Either you can work the machine or the machine will work you.

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If you want a man to be a successful farmer, give him a Allis Chalmers tractor. If you want him to be a successful mechanic, give him a John Deere


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 12:14pm
My old 7G has almost 7 inches of serious foam padding in the base and four in the backrest, layered of dense to soft so does not kick the hell out of me in use unless I get rambunctious.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Orange4ever Orange4ever wrote:

This is Thomas dad . you have a dozer blade use it ! smooth off A spot . if it's a rough ride it's the operator! use the blade to make you a smooth spot. started at this spot and work your way out . Either you can work the machine or the machine will work you.


"This is Thomas's Dad."
-or_
"This is Thomas, Dad."

In other words, who the heck is Thomas? I'm confused


Posted By: Orange4ever
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 7:15pm
My dad uses my account to post sometimes,

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If you want a man to be a successful farmer, give him a Allis Chalmers tractor. If you want him to be a successful mechanic, give him a John Deere


Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 9:51pm
hi dad!


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2016 at 6:52am
Originally posted by Orange4ever Orange4ever wrote:

My dad uses my account to post sometimes,


Ah, so, "This is Thomas's Dad", and Orange4ever = Thomas.

K.

Whew, I never would have got that.


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2021 at 11:35am
My darn back got so bad, I sold mine. I hated to do it, love running it.


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2021 at 6:10pm
Still using them suspension seats on 2 machines - now bought a New Holland 655 Turbo skid steer and after running the BobCat S300 my learning curve has to come back , from crab steer joy stick to hand levers and foot control boom and bucket - and NO suspension at all in either 

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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2021 at 8:37am
Run several Cat 963 series machines and a few Deere rubber tire articulated now a days, two have bolted in seating and are brutal, three are suspension seats where still after a day with my aged busted up back am sore as all get out.  AGE is our culprit not so much machines, youth get bounced around and pass it off as nothing just as we used to.  

Young Persons game and we are still trying to play!!


Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2021 at 4:58am
The biggest pain comes from reaching your ass pocket for your wallet.............

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Posted By: ghostriderinthesky
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2021 at 4:04pm
i'll bet your undercarriage is worn out and the sproket is bumping the pins.  the final drive will go out about the same time your back goes out.


Posted By: Carthus
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 2:30am
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 5:07am
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