B experimental?
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Topic: B experimental?
Posted By: TomYaz
Subject: B experimental?
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:28pm
Got this pic..some sort of B experimental? 322B?...
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:45pm
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Tom,
What is unique about it other than early B?
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:57pm
| That looks like the same early PTO as on the 38 B 751 that Gary and I restored last winter. His had the oil level stencils on the bull gear pans too. If you look at the filler cap location on the tranny case. I bet its like B751. Sometime a little later the filler neck was cast into the tranny case a little differently. I guess you could say the early 38 B were still in the experamental stages of what was to become standard later on. They are just one step away from the 37 experimental with the Waukesha engine. Those early 38s with their differences make them as interesting to me as a 37. Finding a complete one with all its original bits and pieces that were only used for a short time in early 38 makes restoring one right a challenge. |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:59pm
| B's were a work in progress from day 1 until they stopped producing them..... |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 2:01pm
| Hi Mr GlenninPA. I couldn't talk Gary into going to Gray. |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 2:12pm
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Couple more pics...
I suppose this tractor is no more valuable then any other B correct?
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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 2:14pm
dont know, was asking....
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GlenninPA wrote:Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 2:41pm
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The pulley - PTO for the B is an early pulley (1) without the belt pulley attached, and (2) without the lobes to run a hyd pump. The place where the hyd would normally fit is a round type cup.
These type of PTO Belt Pulley's may be somewhat rare since when the hydrallic's came out these type were replaced with the later PTO's Pulleys so that the Hyd could be added. Basically when we replaced one we scrapped the old one.
Take good care of my favorate.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 5:31pm
| it looks kinda like not much of a parts tractor with the gas tank and tin all banged up and the head off.... I wouldn't pay more than a couple hundred bucks for it, and that is if scrap is up. Are it for sale? |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 5:40pm
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So is that a 39? I don't think I have seen a gap in a serial number like that before. Tom, are the front wheels a 5 bolt? Any idea what the engine number is?
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 5:51pm
| Charlie, I thought it looked like a '39 too. I just wasn't gonna rain on it any more than I did already. I thought it looked like B13303...... |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 6:37pm
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Serial numbers were hand stamped. Probly came at shift change. (:^D I have at least two of the power take off units out here with the round core plugs. Might be another. Let me know when they become rare. |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 7:51pm
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My '39 B doesn't have the power take off shaft or the belt pulley shaft.. I'll try picture later ......... haven't had success posting them lately. |
Posted By: RyanTN
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 8:07pm
| Tom--I saw the ad for this too. I won't post it, as I'm not sure if you may be interested in it. For everyone else that is reading this post, the ad reads..."No emails.....I am posting this for my neighbor who has a pre 1939 Allis Chalmers 322B EXPERIMENTAL tractor for sale. Serial number is B313 303. Here are some photos. You can call Bobby...." I think the guy believes that he has something special, but it is just an early B I think. |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 8:33pm
My '39 B
 It's small but a it's a picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 8:57pm
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------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:03pm
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Thanks, CTucker
Tim
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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:07pm
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Yeah,
The fellow sent me the pics and email asking if this was something "special" as the owner seemed to think..Told him the "experts" here said not really and I figured $200 or so...
tom
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:09pm
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yea, i vote $200. I dont see much different than a production B from 39-40. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |