Check it out! The 26 foot "Ultimate Drag"
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Topic: Check it out! The 26 foot "Ultimate Drag"
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Subject: Check it out! The 26 foot "Ultimate Drag"
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 11:24pm
It took me a couple days to make a frame to hook two drags (plus a little one for the middle) to one tractor. It takes forever to "drag" with one 12 foot harrow and a D17/D19, so I made this. [TUBE]D5Rx_w4y554[/TUBE] I'm using my 185, and believe me it's working it some even though these are old fashioned shallow rippers.  I think it's great. And it even went over well with Les Miserables
------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
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Posted By: Leonard
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 7:49am
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Nice looking drag, Daniel.
Leonard
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Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 8:02am
| Nice rig. Looks like you are getting 'er done. Need is the mother of invention - you figured out a better way to meet you need - cool. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 8:51am
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Yeah I wish I had two 16 foot drags I'd make a 35 foot Ultimate Drag! That would be the best ever. I'd need the 190XT to pull it and probably some front weights; you'd be surprised at how much these darn things pull your front end up in the air cause they're so low. This is 26 feet (28 feet with overlap), it's 84 teeth in the ground; it works the 185. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:02am
| Great job! The only problem is that you get done in half the time, cutting down on fun time with the AC tractor. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 10:07am
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Nope! Not at all. Because we always use two people to do it; we use two D17's, we almost never drag alone because it takes forever because we "double kidder" to cover the ground twice. So now it's just me and I lost the other person their job xD I'm gonna try to post the picture again; it didn't work before; I know many images don't here: Okay it shows the image here after I click okay; it's as here as it should be, but when I click post reply it shows up as a blue question mark box. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Allis_Chalmers_185_and_worlds_largest_drag.JPG - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Allis_Chalmers_185_and_world%27s_largest_drag.JPG Okay there's a link to an image.  Here's another link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Allis-Chalmers_185_and_26_foot_spring-tooth_drag_harrow.JPG - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Allis-Chalmers_185_and_26_foot_spring-tooth_drag_harrow.JPG
------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 1:47pm
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like job,here in the mid-west we call those field cultivators or quack diggers, a drag has bars that lay nearly flat in a frame with steel spikes that 'skim' along the soil ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 3:46pm
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quack diggers? Is that because they're so shallow and light duty? ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Max(ia)
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 3:58pm
| We always called them a Springtooth Harrow.. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 4:34pm
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Yes, spring-tooth harrow is the right name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-tooth_harrow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-tooth_harrow C shaped teeth that flex a lot. The biggest "common size" or size I know of/have seen is a 16 foot (4 section) one. This one is 7 four foot sections but over lap so it's 26 feet wide. I've heard of people maybe chaining two together which would be quicker but not as good as having them loose and free to breath and flex like this. "The Muck", Torrey farms Potter extension is 1200 acres of fertile muckland and they still use drags now and then last I knew, they had two 16 foot drags. Pretty old fashioned for a human vegetable crop farm!
------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: ScooterBuck
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:42pm
| Springtooth is what we always called it. It was always my job. Pulled a cullipacker behind. The old 45 I used is in the garage right now:) |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 12:10am
| i have a "kent" springtooth harrow, when i'd plow in the fall i'd use the kent in the spring to level and firm the soil, really works good, but it's to old fashioned for some now a days. i could even put down pressure on it if i wasn't covering the tracks good enough. has transport wheels and folds for travel. if you had alot of trash in the field, it was a dump rake!! |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:41am
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ScooterBuck; you pulled a cultipacker behind the drag? We always plow, cultipack/roll, then drag, then plant. If it's sod we disk between packing and dragging. But dragging is always the last thing we do to prepare the seedbed for planting. Oh, they do have wooden "floats" behind them that smooth it out a little but they certainly don't pack. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:37pm
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Man oh man, now that is what I call flat land. They don't call you "Flatlander," now do they? LOL
Thanks for the photos.
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Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 3:59pm
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Our land is not that flat! lol we're in the northeast in New York. It's not like the midwest or anything. I see the photo now it looks flat. That's interesting; must be the angle I took the photo. Here look at this: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4529734174_32329fa723_b.jpg - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4529734174_32329fa723_b.jpg This really shows how not flat it really is: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/4079194537_06ac5f8a49_b.jpg - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/4079194537_06ac5f8a49_b.jpg ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |