CA question
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Topic: CA question
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Subject: CA question
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 4:14pm
| I drained the trans & diff refilled with diesel as a flush. Tied the clutch down and put trams in gear so it will turn as I roll the tractor. My question is will the pump turn therefore flushing it too, as the tractor moves, if it is engaged. |
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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 4:43pm
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If you mean the hydraulic pump; it only turns when the PTO is engaged. ------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 4:58pm
| Yes I am referring to the hydraulic pump, the tractor doesn't run so will the hydraulic pump turn if the tractor is towed with the pto engaged? |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:02pm
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Yes it should run the pump.
------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:06pm
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Yes
------------- Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152 |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:25pm
| Thanks |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:16pm
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When you drained the oil did you remove the drain plug in the PTO? If not there may be some residual oil there. There is a dam that keeps the oil from "running away" from the hyd if the tractor is going down hill or overfilling if the tractor is going uphill. If the PTO plug was not pulled I would suggest that it be pulled and the PTO drained then check the oil level in case more oil is needed. I wish you luck with the use of diesel oil to clean. If it does not work then you will have to drain the PTO oil and remove the pump for a good cleaning. Let us know how it goes. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 5:14pm
| I removed 2 plugs, 1 under the PTO and 1 above and in front of the pin hitch. Are there more? Thanks |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 7:24pm
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Good Job!! Most forget the PTO drain. There is also a small one in the bottom of the linkage of the hyd pump. Not much oil there Good Luck! Bill Long ps: Sorry I forgot it
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Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 8:03pm
| I've got a couple gallons of diesel fuel in, the pto engaged, tractor in gear with clutch tied down, and lift lever up, so I roll it 8 or 10 ft forward and back a few times a day, until grandson comes over and he can steer while I tow him up the street. Will drain and replace with transfluid before starting. |
Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 6:30am
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i'm missing something here......with the clutch pushed in, the pto does not run on a CA......??? ------------- If ignorance is bliss, than happy days are here again. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 6:38am
The clutch connects the engine to the transmission for the engine to operate the tranny which runs the PTO and hydraulics thru the tranny. With the clutch disengaged, turning the wheels will turn the transmission over driving the PTO and hyd pump. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
alan-nj wrote:Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 6:40am
Not if you are running the Tranny/PTO with the engine, but if you are rolling the tractor with the tranny in gear it will. In other words, he is using the wheels to turn the transmission, without it turning the engine over. That is why he has the clutch pushed in. ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: SteveC (NS)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 6:45am
| Alan, if he's talking about the "foot clutch" the only "drive" that is disconnected is between the engine and the transmission. If he means the "hand clutch" then nothing in the transmission, including the pump and the engine will turn when the tractor is pushed. |
Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 9:12am
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ok... next time i won't read and sleep at the same time.....knew i was missing something... ------------- If ignorance is bliss, than happy days are here again. |
Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 9:46pm
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The clutch is depressed and he is rolling and towing the tractor in gear. The gears and the PTO will turn. LOL Bob ------------- 4 B's, 1 C's,3 CA's, 2 G's WD, D14, D15, B-1, B10, B12, 712S, |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2016 at 6:41pm
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So I was rolling CA back forth today, and I noticed the lift arms were up, so placed lift lever in down position and pushed arms down, moved lift lever back to up rolled forward and back a couple of times lift arms went back up. I believe lift will work really good when I get tractor running. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2016 at 6:55pm
 ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |