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All-Crop Miter Gear

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Topic: All-Crop Miter Gear
Posted By: TomYaz
Subject: All-Crop Miter Gear
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 7:52pm

Was back looking at a quote to make miter gears used in the allcrop grain unloading auger assembly

They spec'ed it as

"18T-5P-14.5PA" Cast Iron Miter

To get a $129 ea price I need to buy 48 of them.

I consistently sell about 4 per year. Hard to justify an outlay of 6K for parts that will take over 10 yrs to sell.

Can anyone match up that spec to something off the shelf close? I read some stock gear catalogs on line and it was greek to me. Maybe somebody who knows about them can shed some light?




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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!



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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 8:21pm
Ok so 5P I think means 5 Pitch 14.5PA is 14.5 Pressure Angel, 18T = 18 teeth.

Anyone know of any off the shelf like that?

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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 8:41pm

Is the gear that it mates to the same or does it have a different number of teeth?


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 8:43pm
both gears the same. Miter gear.

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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 9:41pm
I guess I don't understand what a Miter Gear is. Elaborate, please!


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 9:54pm
A miter gear is one that sets at a angle to the other. Most times 90 degree  to each other, but not always.    MACK


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 9:59pm
Oh, so the ones at the bottom of the unloading auger then?


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 10:02pm
any grinder mixers have them?


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 10:32pm

The number of teeth, pressure angle etc wouldn't need to be duplicated IF you could determine the pitch diameter and duplicate that.  Then sell the gears in sets.


http://www.linngear.com/part-type/miter/" rel="nofollow - http://www.linngear.com/part-type/miter/


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 5:25am
Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

A miter gear is one that sets at a angle to the other. Most times 90 degreeĀ  to each other, but not always.    MACK




From google:

Miter gears are a special type of bevel gear designed to operate in pairs with identical numbers of teeth and diametral pitches, and a 1:1 ratio.

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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 5:29am
Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

any grinder mixers have them?




I'm sure they are used all over the place...wish I could find one that is used on a modern piece of equipment and buy a bunch.

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On a related issue...sickle guards...cant depend on finding used forever. To make new forged ones would cost 10-14K in tooling alone according to a US manufacturer I talked to...lets see, I sell a dozen or so a year....nope that wont pan out...Anyone find a guard that worked?

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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!



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