Allis HD identification
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Topic: Allis HD identification
Posted By: Cliff in Alberta
Subject: Allis HD identification
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 3:39pm
Hey, looking at this for sale uploads/15578/1.jpg" rel="nofollow - 1.jpg
been sitting in the field for years and he is not sure what it is,and I cant seem to figure it out also, sorry about the poor photos
thought hd-10 or 14 the numbers on the photos show 16 though so is this a HD-16 cable manual trans 1955 or?
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 3:50pm
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looks like a 14 to me, twin air cleaners, dash and manual steering clutch release similar to HD10. 15 or 16 would have hydraulic assist steering and looks like a detroit muffler on left side of engine.
back of tractor gives it away as a 14.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Cliff in Alberta
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 5:32pm
Thanks Cal! thought it was a hd-14 due to the levers/cab and the stacks as well as the bit of engine cowling.rear winch confused me also. been in a field forever i'm told. how do those detroits hold up with "Sealed" under valve cover injector systems but open ports on the two stoke. looks like exhaust was capped at least. two more photos,seems like someone wanted it to be a 16 though with the stickers that say "16" on it I guess lol. a bit odd.
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Cliff
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 11:16pm
I guess you could cut down the tree and count the rings to get some idea of how long it has been sitting in the same spot. Looks like it might be worth trying to get running if you have the time.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 11:56pm
Man so far away... Sure looks like something to try and save.
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Posted By: Cliff in Alberta
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 12:44am
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never thought of tree rings lol. i'd love to work on it , its north of Edmonton, but no room here for it. maybe a sale with 3 years to move it hmmm,,,
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 5:25am
nice thing about those is detroit parts are still readily available. 53-62 buda/lanova and early direct inject engine parts are not, but the hydraulic steering and gate less shift pattern of the latters is easier to run.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Cliff in Alberta
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 11:05am
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Thanks Cal, I guess he got a bit of interest in it and hooked a battery but the engine is stuck. not surprising, I have done a few engines and some stuck ones were because of lower hour tight fitting pistons and years of sitting.some pitting and etched half moon rust rings in the bore and they still fired ok. not even using oil. guessing because piston fitting was still tight, ring fit good, etc.. but they were not 2 strokes. how would you check something like that , some sort of cover ports like a 2 stroke outboard, which btw 2 stroke outboards at least don't do well with anything not fitting perfectly sealed and good compression due to blowby scavenging losses. seen engines that I thought, no way would this scary looking pitted thing run right, honed, and did ok. todays tolerances microns, mine, a dimes worth lol
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 11:18am
yes. this would be a 6-71 GM should be able to pull of some air box covers and take a look inside
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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