Highest horsepower and the most common Allis?
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Topic: Highest horsepower and the most common Allis?
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Subject: Highest horsepower and the most common Allis?
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:54pm
Which model of Allis Chalmers was rated or tested at the highest horsepower? And which one was the most common in the number of them built? Wasn't the most common one the WC? There were about 178,000 of them made.
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CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K.
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Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:25pm
I think at their peak, their were more more of them on farms than any other model. I find that amazing if true, due to the number of Fords, but they may have not been the same model.
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1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p.
1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe
1951 WD, factory p.s.
1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale
2014 HD Tri Glide
2009 GMC CC SLT Dually
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Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:56pm
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The highest horsepower farm tractor that was produced was the 8550 and the 4W-305, both rated at 305hp. The 8550 had 7000 series sheet metal and the 4w-305 had an 8000 series cab with one of a kind sheet metal
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Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 11:43pm
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I see. That's pretty big. 300 horse engine. Prolly close to 250 drawbar. Not quite the 400+ drawbar HP a couple of these newer tractors have. I have yet to know of a production tractor that has 500 actual drawbar HP tho. Maybe a 500 or more HP ENGINE, but not drawbar power.
Take the John Deere 9630 for example: John Deere 9630 Power: | | Engine: | 530 hp [395.2 kW]
| | Drawbar (tested): | 427.14 hp [318.5 kW] |
See that it's got more than a ONE HUNDRED horsepower difference between engine and drawbar!
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CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K.
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Posted By: kip in cny
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 11:46pm
look up big bud diesel 747 thats over 500 easy.
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160 CA 920diesel 5020 HD-3
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Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 11:50pm
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When you say look up, I wrote the article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Bud_747&action=history - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Bud_747&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bud_747 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bud_747
so believe me I know about it lol I meant in production tractors though, there is not 500+ drawbar HP. And also by the way I have no idea what the actual drawbar HP is on the Big Bud. Only the claimed ~900 engine HP. However, with such an engine HP, I'm sure the drawbar is over 500 :)
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CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K.
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Posted By: MI8050
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 4:24am
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We have a dam near here with 3 or 4 Allis Chlamers Hydroelectric turbines, each producing 2200 hp :) Got a tour there one day and was totally impressed, they've been there spinning since the early part of the last century.
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Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 7:23pm
I have heard the WC was highest volume Allis model but never looked to check.
Not sure what model would be highest if you count all makes. Deere and Farmall had some long running models in their lines too.
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1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 7:37pm
I believe I read somewhere once that there were 750,000 or so Fordsons built. They were way out ahead of anybody as far as production of one model.
http://www.ytmag.com/atrp/prodnum.htm - http://www.ytmag.com/atrp/prodnum.htm
Here are some production numbers listed.
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: norm [ind]
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 7:50pm
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hp. today an the wc .s days are computerd different wc was brake hp. today it is computered hp. no comparision in my book my 2 cents
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:38pm
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8050, we have at least two dams within 15 miles of the house. They both have AC generator units. 6 each I believe. Also have another lake in the Savannah river system down below Hartwell and Russell. It may have AC units, i'm not sure. That's a LOT of combined HP!
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Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:49am
Wait, yes, How is horsepower calculated nowadays vs back then? I imagine the newer way would be the more inflated, generous, non accurate way.
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CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 1:53pm
CTuckerNWIL, notice how so many Deere end in even numbers like 3000,000 or 30,000 or 160,000. They aren't an accurate numbers. Just estimates. Deere lovers will argue it to their last breath but it's true. I went through the numbers once years ago and could only account for about 240,000 or 260,000 A's. Compare that to the WC and WD which combined are at over 324,000 for the same years. I know the model designation changes but the tractor has no more changes than an early A to a late A, probably even less as the engine from a WD to a WC isn't very different and the gears in the tranny will swap.. That tells you that there were and are a lot of Allis's of that era.
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