Wd advice
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Topic: Wd advice
Posted By: what66
Subject: Wd advice
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 11:22am
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Hi guys I'm looking to buy my second tractor I'm looking at a allis Wd. http://ottumwa.craigslist.org/grd/5416445804.html" rel="nofollow - http://ottumwa.craigslist.org/grd/5416445804.htm Is this a good price? Any help would be great thanks. |
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 11:46am
| While it's a little ugly it says runs and drives. Tires appear round. I've always maintained that a running working tractor is worth at least a thousand dollars. For five hundered I think your getting a deal. Give it a tune up chasing all the fluids and use it till your comfortable with the condition before investing in paint or upgrades. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 11:46am
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CAn't tell much from one picture. It could be a bargain if everything works as it should and the rear rims aren't rusted out, but it could be a money pit too if sompin isn't right and you start fixinn things as you go.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 11:49am
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If it runs and you can drive it to test the hand clutch and all the gears then the price is good. Also the curved shifter may indicate that this is a WD45 which gives it more power than just the WD. If it can't be started then you must assume nothing works and I would not give more than $200-300 for it. Good luck. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 12:43pm
| If your in it for a challenge! Buy it! If it runs and moves go for it! Then get the check book out! Headlights, figure the fenders are rotten where they attach, all the oils are shot and will need to be flushed out a few times. Hope the block isn't cracked... But can always part out and recoup 500 bucks! Ask about implements looks like an old AC farm! May score big! Good luck, I'm enjoying the heck out of my WD project! |
Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 1:31pm
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even the one behind it has a can on the exhaust, so if they care enough to do that, there is some hope...
------------- Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die |
Posted By: JakeWI
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 2:01pm
| Says it runs and drives ,sheetmetal looks not to bad I would go for it at that price. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 2:08pm
| Thanks for the advice I'll let you know what the guy says. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 4:15pm
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The price is not toooooo bad. Assuming the tires are ok as is. I paid almost that much for a WD with stuck engine. Just depends how bad you want it? Might be a 45 which is a little more desirable. More pictures would help too. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 5:11pm
| Check the oil make sure no antifreeze in it. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 6:33pm
| Pull the dipstick if the bottom is rusty that means it's been sitting with water in the oil pan. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 6:38pm
| Thanks guys still waiting to hear back. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 10:28pm
| If the rear rims are both good, you can't go wrong for $500. The rear rims alone are worth half the asking price. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 5:24pm
Well I missed out on that one it's sold. There is another one here. http://desmoines.craigslist.org/grd/5421389659.html" rel="nofollow - http://desmoines.craigslist.org/grd/5421389659.html The only thing I'm worried a bought is that tire. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 6:31pm
| It looks like it will need tires all the way around. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 7:11pm
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This one has potential. Yes you will need some tires. Again about what I paid for one and it didn't run and had bad tires too. So even if they gave it to you you could put $2000 into it pretty easy. Good luck. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 6:10am
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Kind of hard not to go for it for $500. I'd still offer 4 and see what happens. Or even start off with $300 saying the tires, fenders, lights, lift arm latches....anything else that is bad/missing. MAKE SURE it runs though... Have HIM start it for you. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 12:45pm
| If you buy it, it will keep me from buying it. I really don't need another project! |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 2:09pm
| I got a hold of the guy I'm going to talk to him tonight after work wish me good luck. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 5:31pm
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I called on it It's a wd45 some where in the fifty's. It dies burn some oil Ill check it before I buy it. I'm going on Sunday but he said a lot of people have called so it I might not get it after all. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 7:52pm
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Good luck, Not sure that left tire is going to be able to be saved? Some folks may shy away for that reason. Calls don't buy the item. Parts are readily available for the 45. I have seen worse. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 7:56pm
| Almost anybody selling something will say they've had lots of calls and lots of people interested in whatever it is they have but yet there it is still for sale. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 6:22pm
| Tomorrow I'm going to check it out I'll let you know what happens. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 6:44pm
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A WD45 for $500 bucks and it runs? Don't dilly-dally. I think that's a pretty good price even if it may need tires. If yer' lookin' for a neat project Tractor, there it is! Stick some air in the tire and get it up on a Trailer and git' it home! Good luck! ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 7:06pm
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My advice...Just make sure it will run for a while...not just for a few seconds and that is has some power and it doesn't smoke !!! I bought a tractor once,...it did not run too good,, the seller said "it just needs some carb cleaner and it will run ok"""" I believed him..what I should of said was if that is all it needs why didn't you do that before I came and got it running right! Learned a lesson there! ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 10:31pm
| David there are better ones around here, unless you are desperate for one, don't be in a hurry. Pick up The Exchange, local shopper that goes over the bottom 1/2 of Iowa and a lot of Missouri. More of them in there are being sold by retired farmers or the widows or sons and daughters that don't have a need for dads old tractor. . Most of them would have been taken care of in their working days, as the owners dependaded on them to make a living. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 3:53pm
I got it!!! It runs fine just needs a tune up and a little maintenance. It's a wd45 it's 1955 I think. I'll post some pic's later. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 3:58pm
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Congratulations! Looking forward to the pictures too! Running tractor! Awesome. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 4:06pm
| Congratulations!!! Looks pretty good I think! |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 4:44pm
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Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 4:47pm
| nice looking tractor. |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 6:04pm
| now the fun begins! Change the fluids, remember there are three differential plugs! Get all the manuals! |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 9:52pm
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I think I saw you coming out of a gas station with the tractor on a trailer on Hickman Road by I35 today. I was on to Waukee to see my daughter! It looked good on the trailer. Pastor Mike ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 6:56am
That'll work great for you! if you can fabricate, whip up a 3-point kit and a pair of forks, and you can use it to pick up and move things around very easily.  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 7:03am
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45 looks good! I think you will have fun with that tractor. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 7:27am
Oh you did good. Enjoy! ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 12:25pm
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Thank you for all your help guys I put in new plugs changed the oil. It runs great but it does smoke from number 2 I will fix it later. It seems to have plenty of power and everything works OK. Hopefully It just needs a sleeve or some rings. For now I'm just going to use it as is I don't have a lot to use it for anyway. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 1:23pm
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Or perhaps just a stuck ring, which isn't unusual if they've been sitting for a while... one valve open, condensation makes the bore a little gunky, and it gets rammed in around the ring. Work it hardand you may find that will unstick it. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 5:14am
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Nice looking tractor for that price!! Yes, work it HARD and if it's a stuck ring, that should pop it loose. If not, it's no big deal, you can use it that way. Just have to keep an eye on the oil EVERY morning. It's upgraded to an alternator already for you! You'll love it!! Know where to find the serial number? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 5:30pm
| Well I pulled it into the shop tomorrow I will find out why she's smoking. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 1:58pm
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Ok guys I found out the problem the valve guides on the intake valve's are badly worn. It look's like some one replaced the exhaust seats. I made a tool and pushed out the guides without any problems now I just have to find some new one's. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 5:41pm
Well looks like I need to rebuild the engine after all. Anyone Know where to get a good priced Engine kit ? |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 6:21am
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Glad to see you took my advice and not dilly dally. LOL! Great lookin' Tractor man. You should have a lot of fun and enjoyment wit' dat! Congrat's! If you ever need any wiring or electrical for that ole' girl, give us a jingle... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 9:24am
We are all always trying to save money when doing any work on these old tractors, but I would urge you to buy a good quality rebuild kit, with as many American parts as possible. There are several vendors that advertise (and sponsor) this site that have decent prices, good quality parts and a wealth of knowledge to guide you when you buy. |
what66 wrote:Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 6:30pm
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Thanks guys which Pistons should I use the flat top or the bowl? My engine has the power crater pistons. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 6:40pm
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I, personally, would stick with the Power Crater pistons. The flat tops are ok if you're using it strictly for tractor pulling, but the original equipment stuff is better for everyday use. 7.25/1 compression ratio pistons are available in 4.125" bore at very reasonable cost. 8.25/1 pistons (high octane/LP) are available in 4" bore, but they are very costly.
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Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2016 at 3:59pm
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Well guys I got bad news the engine need's a complete rebuild. I took the bottom apart today the crank is messed up on #4 and the rod is screwed too. I think the crank can be saved but I will need a rod. I know a rebuild is the best thing I just have to figure out how to pay for it. The kit I found is $695 is that a good price?   |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2016 at 7:59pm
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Sorry to hear that! ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 4:05am
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Rod and bearing, perhaps. How's the piston fitment, and the sleeve bores? What is your ultimate intent for this tractor's use? Reason I ask- I've built up engines from a variety of donors, using combinations that were used, but still very serviceable for basic use. If you're not planning on making it a high-performance competetor, not dealing with incredible wear, catastrophic damage, or physical trauma, you may have a substantial lineup of parts that really don't need replacing. If the pistons and sleeves are fairly well fitting, and sleeves aren't severely tapered or out-of-round, a set of properly gapped modern rings, one rod, a set of bearings, an oil pump and some emery paper on the crank might set the bottom end up for another 60 years, and leave the budget available to give the cylinder head a rehab... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: what66
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 2:08pm
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I just want it use it around the yard no pulling or heavy use. I tried to fix my c like that but it didn't work out I had to do a complete rebuild. The head is ok I got the new guides and am going to get new valves. I'll pull the crank and see from there. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 4:36pm
| If you need a rod I have a couple laying around, $10/each plus shipping. |