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Topic: Pics of the LOWERED B I have been working on.
Posted By: skeeters65
Subject: Pics of the LOWERED B I have been working on.
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 10:05am
Hey guys I have been working on this B for a few months now. Thanks for answering all my questions. Your help has been greatly appreciated!!
I have been hesitant to post pics but some here have convinced me I should. Still got a long way to go but it's getting there.
I lowered the tractor by flipping the final drives and front end. Lowed the seat 2.5" and shortened the steering column 6.5", added WD fenders and brackets, painted the wheels and new rubber all around.





Lowered LED headlights

Front end before we pie cut it and re-welded it. 13.5* if I remember correct

Mocking up brake pedal angles



Filling brake lever holes in seat rails.


WD fender brackets cut and B drawbar pins welded on.

WD fender and brackets mounted to B final drives with draw bar pins as locators.

Seat rail mounting brackets welded on the final drive. (Welding cast is tough)



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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 10:39am
Now that is interesting! Thanks for sharing

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 10:44am
looking good

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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 10:52am
Another one Steve B wouldn't need a ladder for  LOL
Sorry Steve I just had to.


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Posted By: GaryL
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 11:20am


Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 12:00pm
That is awesome! Show a photo of the front axle, I can not envision how you did that part!


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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,


Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 12:20pm
I have seen this done before and have always been curious; how did you add/check the fluid in the final drives?


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 12:47pm
Photo of the front end added.
Guys I have hundreds of photos. If you want to see something just ask.
Cpg,
To check final drive fluid you need to pull the pan off the bottom (what is now the top) of the drive. You can add fluid the the drain plug or do it with the pan off.


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 2:18pm
NEAT!!!  I have never seen my favorite so low to the ground.
Great Job!
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 2:36pm
Looks like she's ready for the race track or maybe the airport to pull baggage carts.
Keep up the good work.


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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
Allis Express participant


Posted By: TL12A
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 2:55pm
that is excellent! Good engineering--


Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:06pm
Thanks for showing the front axle!

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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,


Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:11pm
I like what you have done.


Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:26pm
That looks amazing great work.


Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:31pm
That looks great. I like "different".


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:36pm
Very slick. I am guessing that if you post the 100 pictures we will look at them:) I like this stuff but have never done much custom work. It sure makes a different looking tractor. Maybe AC orchard? Lets see a picture of you setting in the cockpit. Do you still get on from the left front?
Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 3:48pm
Beeeutifull!

Kinda 'rat rod'

Always impressed when someone actually finishes a project, mine seem to drag on and on and on and ......

Jay



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: TBone
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 4:16pm
EXCELLENT work, EXCELLENT job!!!! 
WOW!!!! yeah show pics!
Now all you need is a v-8! Ask Shameless where to get one. Wink


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 5:40pm
Shameless you know something about a V8 swap?
I'm thinking about a turbo on this motor or rebuilding it to get more RPM's.


Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 5:59pm
skeeters65, I told you to post the pics.  Some may not like it, but most do.  Nice looking tractor.
Steve


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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Hubnut Hubnut wrote:

skeeters65, I told you to post the pics.  Some may not like it, but most do.  Nice looking tractor.
Steve



Yes you did Steve. Thanks for the encouragement and kind words.

Chris,
Yes I still get on from the left front. Or it is very easy to step on the draw bar and step over the seat also.
Not sure I have any pic with me on it. I will work on that.


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 8:30am
Low Clearance B for lawn mowing only if there is enough room for a belly mower. Work on making it shorter by about 24 inches.


Posted By: GaryL
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 8:48am
At the very least, post some pictures of the front and work (in progress) and some varying angles of the tractor.


Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 9:01am
Ken I was looking at that wondering just what you could actually do with it. My uncle who helps me with the haying is getting older and having trouble getting on and off a d serries tractor I will be adding a step but thought how cool it would be if you could lower a d17 and still bale hay with it.
I still think that B looks amazing and talk about a great law mower.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 12:50pm
Hey Tuck!
I collected all the parts to build one of those. Mine will have a square tube axle simlar to an IB. Got all the parts. Just need to finish up all the other projects goin' on. Looks great Skeeter! What do ya mean your were hesitant to show pics. Are ya crazy? Everybody loves this stuff man!!  Even the purists would get a kick out of it I would think. Its not like the B is a super rare Tractor with over 100,000+ out there.... LOL!  Looks cool!
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 1:17pm
I am a staunch purist and I think your "low rider" is Awesome!!! You just won't be able to cultivate 2' tall corn with it LOL LOL


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 2:27pm
Crank start??? Ouch! Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, but only your "B" can fit under the limbo stick. I like your "B".

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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 2:30pm
Crank start? It does have an electric starter on it.


Posted By: littlemarv
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 3:30pm
Ooooooooohhhh....... Good stuff for me here! Next time the old lady freaks cause I get a tractor part in, I can just show her this one and say "See what I COULD be doing?".

THANKS!

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The mechanic always wins.

B91131, WC23065, WD89101, CA29479, B1, Early B10, HB212, 416H


Posted By: Ethan Souerdike
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 5:46pm
That's something you don't see everyday, looks good. Thumbs Up

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Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.


Posted By: structures
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 6:39pm
Looks good. Glad you posted it.

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Robert
http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82702&KW=structures&title=structures-1964-allis-d15-series-ii" rel="nofollow - 1964 D15 Series II


Posted By: David Gantt N.C.
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 8:47pm
nice job, would be easy to get on and off, need a roll cage and it would be a race tractor, thanks for sharing.


Posted By: DanC911
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 9:08pm
Looks great Skeeter.  Bring it to the tractor cruise in Durham in July.  Something different would really stand out

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1950 WD, 1955 B, 66 Jacobsen Chief-O-Matic, 68 Simplicity 2110, 77 IH Cub Cadet 1450 w/front loader


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 12:00am
Originally posted by DanC911 DanC911 wrote:

Looks great Skeeter.  Bring it to the tractor cruise in Durham in July.  Something different would really stand out


I was trying to have it somewhat ready for Durham this year but was running a little behind. Going to hit a bunch of the fairs and tractor shows this year.


Posted By: ErikR
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 10:22am
I like it! Thumbs Up
 
I remember seeing something like it on here before. 1 google image search later.....

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46740







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1950 B


Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 10:31am
Skeeter another to pump your imagination--


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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 10:42am
Yeah there are a few of them out there. I am pretty sure I have looked at everyone that is posted on the web. I have taken some ideas from some of them, improved on some of the ideas and made some stuff on my own. I am in the process of lowering my headlights like that last photo. I thought about going the super single rear tire route before I saw that photo a couple months ago but decided I wanted to keep the tractor tires so I bought brand new tires.

Thanks again for all the positive comments. I think I have answered all your questions and pic requests.
Please keep them coming.
Thanks


Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 5:03pm
Should get the final drive off a C and widen it! Two thumbs up!


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by PatrickBeth PatrickBeth wrote:

Should get the final drive off a C and widen it! Two thumbs up!


Nah. Not a big fan if the wide C rear end.


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 12:53pm
Pics added.
More to come.
Let me know what you want to see and I will post them.


Posted By: George Davenport
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 4:38pm
What kind & size turf tires on the rear of the B?

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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 5:39pm
George,
My tractor has 9.5x24 tractor tires. If you are asking about the one above with the grey wheels I'm not sure what size they are but they are Super Single tractor trailer truck tires.


Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 6:02pm
Lookin realy COOL!

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Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 6:16pm
Now that is a work in sincerity!!!  GREAT job and great pics!!  THANKS!!

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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 8:25pm
Looks really nice.   I do have a question about the steering geometry: it looks like the steering arms facing frontwards are narrower in front than at the pivots. Is this the case? Because I would think they would work better facing the back end. (The De Dion principle).

The idea is to have the inner wheel on a turn steer sharper than the outer one.


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

Looks really nice.   I do have a question about the steering geometry: it looks like the steering arms facing frontwards are narrower in front than at the pivots. Is this the case? Because I would think they would work better facing the back end. (The De Dion principle).

The idea is to have the inner wheel on a turn steer sharper than the outer one.


Yes you are correct.
It steers fine this way. Tight turns are a bit difficult though. I may change it at some point but to get the tie rod under the tractor will be tough.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 9:14pm
Nice looking tractor .I would like to see a picture of the pink filter .LOL

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2016 at 11:04am
Maybe the steering arms could be cut off and angled outward? Maybe there isn't clearance.


Posted By: olddogtrac
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:47pm
could you possiby post a detailed picture of the wishbone mod,particularly the stabilizer rods front and rear mounting of ea thanks olddogtrac


Posted By: olddogtrac
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 9:01pm
i need detailed pic of wishbone mod,in particular moving of stabilizer bar to underside of wish bone and what appears to be widened at the rear to clear oil pan thanks olddogtrac


Posted By: 34 Airflow
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 10:15pm
That looks fantastic! Thanks for showing the photos of this build, I would love to buy/build one like this down the track, and looking at yours vs the other two shown later in the thread you have really nailed the look, I prefer the more factory correct style.

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1937 Model A, 1937 Model U, 1929 United, 1945 Model C, 1949 WF, 1948 WC, 1956 D272 and a Roto Baler
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Posted By: Randy WI
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 6:57am
Have a question with the final drives turned 180 how do you keep gears lubed. lots of work looks good. Randy


Posted By: SteveC(NS)
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:03am
The pic under the heading,
"Front end before we pie cut it and re-welded it. 13.5* if I remember correct"

shows that there is a starter on it.


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:51am
Seen one like that around Linn while back, pretty neat


Posted By: olddogtrac
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 9:41am
could you show the stabilizer bar modification to the wishbone for oil pan clearance


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 10:09am
Show it at a CAR SHOW. It will blow the RAT ROD gang's collective minds even without a blown big block in it.


Posted By: olddogtrac
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 5:27pm
I need complete finished wishbone mod pictures for stabilizer bars thanks nice work


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 6:17pm
Needs a little teeny steering wheel...Wink


Posted By: olddogtrac
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:59pm
very nice work,i could use pictures of completed wishbone front and rear thanks for the help


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:01am


From my brothers wedding. This tractor ran around the farm for 2 days straight fetching people, beer and just cruising. Never a single issue and anyone and everyone was driving it. Can't say anything more.


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:09am


The boys were out beating on one of the golf carts at the wedding and broke it. The B had to go save the day!!


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:22am



Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:23am

Last one from the wedding. My favorite. Me and my kids


Posted By: Body man
Date Posted: 24 May 2019 at 7:20am
Hey man,I'm lowering a B and would appreciate any help with anything that might eliminate some trial and error, message me if you will please. Thanks, Tim


Posted By: Gordy54
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2019 at 4:55am
Could you email me a picture of the finished front axle please? Gordy41210@gmail.com


Posted By: bronco306
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2019 at 5:11pm
im looking for the same as Gordy54, need some inspiration!!! winth3@hotmail.com




Posted By: Steve Wilkens
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 8:45pm
Your lowered B is awesome. I just picked one up to do the same thing and would love pictures of yours. For some reason I can't see the photos clearly. Is there any way I could get some pics of yours sent to my email? jdfrd@aol.com


Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 7:29am
I will try to send some pictures out the next day or so. Any chance of texting them? Much easier for me.



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